Re: There is no such thing as a Bad Beat

[Stephen Jacobs]

"Len Bernard" <43081276@recpoker.com> wrote in message
news:1128284194$629458@recpoker.com...
> Some of you unedecated poker plaers need to go take stetistics class.
> Theirs no
> such thing as a bad beat...its all numbers. Do yous realize how fullish
> you look
> when you post this bad beat stories. You seem like losers to me. Know one
> cares!!!!!!!
>
> Now go back to playin with your dumb-ass cards.
>

There ARE bad beats. It's just that people think too many ordinary losses
are bad beats, when they aren't.

A bad beat is any hand where you played right (one requirement) and an
opponent took very much the worst of it (second requirement) to win in the
end. The classic genuinely bad beat is when you make an ace-high flush on
the flop in hold'em, bet it, and someone takes the heat to draw
perfect-perfect for either quads (over a hundred to one against, since a
boat would beat you too) or an inside-inside straight flush (just under 1000
to one against). Immaculate quads (three down cards matching one of the up
cards) over a big hand in stud are painful, but not a bad beat because the
person who makes them knew something you didn't know to make his play
justifiable.

I don't need to take a statistics class; I could teach a statistics class.

[Nick Wool]

On Oct 2 2005 10:22 PM, Stephen Jacobs wrote:

> "Len Bernard" <43081276@recpoker.com> wrote in message
> news:1128284194$629458@recpoker.com...
> > Some of you unedecated poker plaers need to go take stetistics class.
> > Theirs no
> > such thing as a bad beat...its all numbers. Do yous realize how fullish
> > you look
> > when you post this bad beat stories. You seem like losers to me. Know one
> > cares!!!!!!!
> >
> > Now go back to playin with your dumb-ass cards.
> >
>
> There ARE bad beats. It's just that people think too many ordinary losses
> are bad beats, when they aren't.
>
> A bad beat is any hand where you played right (one requirement) and an
> opponent took very much the worst of it (second requirement) to win in the
> end. The classic genuinely bad beat is when you make an ace-high flush on
> the flop in hold'em, bet it, and someone takes the heat to draw
> perfect-perfect for either quads (over a hundred to one against, since a
> boat would beat you too) or an inside-inside straight flush (just under 1000
> to one against). Immaculate quads (three down cards matching one of the up
> cards) over a big hand in stud are painful, but not a bad beat because the
> person who makes them knew something you didn't know to make his play
> justifiable.
>
> I don't need to take a statistics class; I could teach a statistics class.

Surely this is a bad beat?  AK min raise UTG, I called in button with TQ...no
other callers...flop TTK.

UTG bets 2x pot, I called.  turn was a 5, rainbow board...UTG goes all in (4 X
pot), I knew I had him now.  He cant have AT, KT or KK with that sort of
betting.  Think he's trying to chase me out with AA/AK/QQ or JJ here.

I called..he flips over AK....95% favourite with a card to come...all the
money are in the middle.  Happy...well, yes, but not when a K rivers...:(  lost
600 that pot...

Does that classify as a bad beat?  Or are there really no such thing?
..


_______________________________________________________________
Your Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com

[richiematt]

On Oct 2 2005 6:11 PM, Nick Wool wrote:

>
>
>
> On Oct 2 2005 10:22 PM, Stephen Jacobs wrote:
>
> > "Len Bernard" <43081276@recpoker.com> wrote in message
> > news:1128284194$629458@recpoker.com...
> > > Some of you unedecated poker plaers need to go take stetistics class.
> > > Theirs no
> > > such thing as a bad beat...its all numbers. Do yous realize how fullish
> > > you look
> > > when you post this bad beat stories. You seem like losers to me. Know one
> > > cares!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > Now go back to playin with your dumb-ass cards.
> > >
> >
> > There ARE bad beats. It's just that people think too many ordinary losses
> > are bad beats, when they aren't.
> >
> > A bad beat is any hand where you played right (one requirement) and an
> > opponent took very much the worst of it (second requirement) to win in the
> > end. The classic genuinely bad beat is when you make an ace-high flush on
> > the flop in hold'em, bet it, and someone takes the heat to draw
> > perfect-perfect for either quads (over a hundred to one against, since a
> > boat would beat you too) or an inside-inside straight flush (just under 1000
> >
> > to one against). Immaculate quads (three down cards matching one of the up
> > cards) over a big hand in stud are painful, but not a bad beat because the
> > person who makes them knew something you didn't know to make his play
> > justifiable.
> >
> > I don't need to take a statistics class; I could teach a statistics class.
>
> Surely this is a bad beat?  AK min raise UTG, I called in button with TQ...no
> other callers...flop TTK.
>
> UTG bets 2x pot, I called.  turn was a 5, rainbow board...UTG goes all in (4 X
> pot), I knew I had him now.  He cant have AT, KT or KK with that sort of
> betting.  Think he's trying to chase me out with AA/AK/QQ or JJ here.
>
> I called..he flips over AK....95% favourite with a card to come...all the
> money are in the middle.  Happy...well, yes, but not when a K rivers...:( 
> lost
> 600 that pot...
>
> Does that classify as a bad beat?  Or are there really no such thing?
There have been several posts about bad beats and what qualifies (how many outs-
like the two outer that beat you) as a bad beat.

I think your example is a bad beat. However, the words are used loosely to
include hands that are underdogs (like JT vs AK).

Richie 


_______________________________________________________________
The Largest Online Poker Community - http://www.recpoker.com

[Steve Kishner]

Peg:

You akshelly thot he dint no how too spel them theengs raghtly?