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9. newgca Aug 11 2001, 8:01 pm show options
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From: "newgca" <new...@aol.com> - Find messages by this author
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 19:58:25 -0700
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Subject: Re: One more question for Phil Hellmuth!
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Phil, it doesn't matter if you are good enough. You have been cheated
many
times. You still may not be good enough, but if you weren't cheated as
often
as you have, you would have stood a lot better chance. Marked cards are
hard
to beat. New GCA
Phil Hellmuth <pokerphilw...@home.com> wrote in message
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> I felt like I was one of the best players back then because I was playing
> against the best in Vegas, and I kept seeing them make many serious
> mistakes in their play. However, I didn't have the discipline to avoid
> making mistakes myself...I guess that I felt that I saw clearly how to
> play world class poker, but I wasn't enough of a man back then to actually
> play that way. Does this make sense to you? Knowing that you are a great
> player and playing like a great player are two different things altogether
> (knowing the path and walking the path are totally different issues). I
> just had to learn how to play like a great player most of each session.
> In fact, I still struggle with that issue today!! Sometimes I will lose
> $20,000 in a sidegame and come away saying, "Boy did I play bad in that
> game!" My biggest weakness over the years is 'walking the path.' Maybe
> someday I will REALLY grow up and 'walk the path' all of the time!
> -Cheers, Phil
> Mandy wrote:
> > In 1991, Peter Alson wrote:
> > "By this time he [Phil Hellmuth] had also dropped out of U.W. His
> > parents were convinced he was throwing away his life. "The funny part
> > is my confidence at poker was sky-high. Hellmuth says. "But then I'd
> > come back home broke and try to tell my parents that I was one of the
> > best players in the world. And they just thought I was crazy." At one
> > point Hellmuth asked his father what he'd rather see, Phil working at
> > the post office or Phil trying to become the greatest poker player in
> > the world.
> > His father said, "I'd rather see you work at the post office." "
> > Phil, when you were coming home broke in Madison, Wisconsin and
> > telling your parents that you were the best in the world, do you think
> > that you really were? If so, how did you get out of this rut?
> > Thanks,
> > ~Mandy
> > PS- Thanks for posting.
10. Phil Hellmuth Aug 13 2001, 4:49 pm show options
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From: Phil Hellmuth <pokerphilw...@home.com> - Find messages by this
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:49:41 GMT
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Subject: Re: One more question for Phil Hellmuth!
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I believe you, I don't want to get into a long thread about cheating,
as I
believe that it really bad for poker in the long run, but I am curious
about how
I have been cheated. Has it been mostly with marked cards? Or
dealers? Or
what? Can you just email the answer privately?
-Phil Hellmuth
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From: "newgca" <new...@aol.com> - Find messages by this author
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 19:58:25 -0700
Local: Sat, Aug 11 2001 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: One more question for Phil Hellmuth!
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Phil, it doesn't matter if you are good enough. You have been cheated
many
times. You still may not be good enough, but if you weren't cheated as
often
as you have, you would have stood a lot better chance. Marked cards are
hard
to beat. New GCA
Phil Hellmuth <pokerphilw...@home.com> wrote in message
news:3B74E3B2.944A5696@home.com...
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> I felt like I was one of the best players back then because I was playing
> against the best in Vegas, and I kept seeing them make many serious
> mistakes in their play. However, I didn't have the discipline to avoid
> making mistakes myself...I guess that I felt that I saw clearly how to
> play world class poker, but I wasn't enough of a man back then to actually
> play that way. Does this make sense to you? Knowing that you are a great
> player and playing like a great player are two different things altogether
> (knowing the path and walking the path are totally different issues). I
> just had to learn how to play like a great player most of each session.
> In fact, I still struggle with that issue today!! Sometimes I will lose
> $20,000 in a sidegame and come away saying, "Boy did I play bad in that
> game!" My biggest weakness over the years is 'walking the path.' Maybe
> someday I will REALLY grow up and 'walk the path' all of the time!
> -Cheers, Phil
> Mandy wrote:
> > In 1991, Peter Alson wrote:
> > "By this time he [Phil Hellmuth] had also dropped out of U.W. His
> > parents were convinced he was throwing away his life. "The funny part
> > is my confidence at poker was sky-high. Hellmuth says. "But then I'd
> > come back home broke and try to tell my parents that I was one of the
> > best players in the world. And they just thought I was crazy." At one
> > point Hellmuth asked his father what he'd rather see, Phil working at
> > the post office or Phil trying to become the greatest poker player in
> > the world.
> > His father said, "I'd rather see you work at the post office." "
> > Phil, when you were coming home broke in Madison, Wisconsin and
> > telling your parents that you were the best in the world, do you think
> > that you really were? If so, how did you get out of this rut?
> > Thanks,
> > ~Mandy
> > PS- Thanks for posting.
10. Phil Hellmuth Aug 13 2001, 4:49 pm show options
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From: Phil Hellmuth <pokerphilw...@home.com> - Find messages by this
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:49:41 GMT
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Subject: Re: One more question for Phil Hellmuth!
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I believe you, I don't want to get into a long thread about cheating,
as I
believe that it really bad for poker in the long run, but I am curious
about how
I have been cheated. Has it been mostly with marked cards? Or
dealers? Or
what? Can you just email the answer privately?
-Phil Hellmuth