janksta6481
11-18-2005, 02:12 PM
Surely this is bogus info, atleast to a certain extent. Its rather obvious that
Doyle, Chip, and Stu are some of the best players the game has ever seen, and
since the new age of televised poker, this fact has only been solidified. Why
then would these players need to cheat when they can beat their opponents
straight up? Why would this be necessary? These are pretty outlandish
accusations, and maybe I just don't want to believe anything of the sort, but
seriously...this is sort of just silly.
....Oh and by the way, of course Phil would believe he was being cheated. He
isn't man enough to take responsibility for his loses, as he said, and he will
accept any answer that displaces blame.
On Oct 4 2005 12:49 AM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> California Cheating
>
>
> This is addressed to the "uneducated in cheating".
>
>
> Do you think I am a cheat? Do you believe I have cheated for over
> thirty years?
> Do you believe I know about cheating in poker, as well as many other
> games? Do
> you doubt I can spot cheating in a fairly quick manner? Do you think I
> will
> know when marked cards are being played? Do you doubt I can spot many
> types of
> marked cards?
>
>
> Doyle Brunson and Chip Reese owned Oceanside Card Casino, in Oceanside
> Ca,
> about the early 1990's. Doug Dalton was the manager there at that time.
> The big
> game was crooked there, when it went. The reason Doyle and Chip
> couldn't get
> the place going, was the California cheats would not play there, as
> they knew
> they would be cheated. No player base, so no game:).
>
>
> When Len Miller bought Oceanside Card Casino, other cheats moved in and
> the
> place did quite a business. When Ocean's 11 opened up, this basically
> put
> Oceanside Card Casino out of business, better location and a new batch
> of
> cheats. The old was replaced with the new.
>
>
> I was in Oceanside when Doyle and Chip owned OCC. I was there when Len
> Miller
> had OCC. Both places were crooked to the core.
>
>
> I was also in Bell Gardens when Yosh Nakano hosted a high stakes game
> at the
> Regency in Bell Gardens, Ca. This is the place Huck Seed and Phil
> Hellmuth, as
> well as many others were cheated by Doyle Brunson, Chip Reese, Stu
> Ungar and
> others. I was there also.
>
>
> Only a person that is totally ignorant would doubt I couldn't spot a
> game with
> marked cards in it. Only a person who is totally ignorant would doubt I
> could
> catch a cheat.
>
>
> Doyle Brunson, Chip Reese and Stu Ungar were among the cheats that
> played in
> California during the early to mid 90's. I was there, just one game
> away, doing
> my thing also.
>
>
> If this isn't current 1st hand information, you people are idiots. I
> was there
> watching them cheat as I was cheating myself. I would have been
> cheating the
> people they were cheating except they had that management.
>
>
> Bill Nirdlinger worked at the Regency where he was prosecuted for
> cheating a
> jackpot. He wasn't caught, but the place was doing so badly, it
> couldn't pay it
> off, and knowing his reputation he was prosecuted and convicted under
> an
> alias. John Martino was one of the players in this pre-arranged game to
> take
> this jackpot off. Jack McClellan, 'your tournament director' was also
> working
> there. The Regency was the old Bell Club that took over when Gardena
> was coming
> to an end. It is located about one mile north of the Bicycle Club on
> Eastern
> Avenue.
>
>
> This was California in the 90's. Doyle, Chip, Stu and many others were
> there
> cheating the suckers who would play with them. I was there watching and
> doing
> the same. You can deny all you want, but mine is 1st hand information
> for
> decades. If you think I can't scam, cheat or catch someone cheating,
> you are
> ignorant.
>
>
> Russ Georgiev
>
> http://www.pokermafia.com/
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Doyle, Chip, and Stu are some of the best players the game has ever seen, and
since the new age of televised poker, this fact has only been solidified. Why
then would these players need to cheat when they can beat their opponents
straight up? Why would this be necessary? These are pretty outlandish
accusations, and maybe I just don't want to believe anything of the sort, but
seriously...this is sort of just silly.
....Oh and by the way, of course Phil would believe he was being cheated. He
isn't man enough to take responsibility for his loses, as he said, and he will
accept any answer that displaces blame.
On Oct 4 2005 12:49 AM, RussGeorgiev@aol.com wrote:
> California Cheating
>
>
> This is addressed to the "uneducated in cheating".
>
>
> Do you think I am a cheat? Do you believe I have cheated for over
> thirty years?
> Do you believe I know about cheating in poker, as well as many other
> games? Do
> you doubt I can spot cheating in a fairly quick manner? Do you think I
> will
> know when marked cards are being played? Do you doubt I can spot many
> types of
> marked cards?
>
>
> Doyle Brunson and Chip Reese owned Oceanside Card Casino, in Oceanside
> Ca,
> about the early 1990's. Doug Dalton was the manager there at that time.
> The big
> game was crooked there, when it went. The reason Doyle and Chip
> couldn't get
> the place going, was the California cheats would not play there, as
> they knew
> they would be cheated. No player base, so no game:).
>
>
> When Len Miller bought Oceanside Card Casino, other cheats moved in and
> the
> place did quite a business. When Ocean's 11 opened up, this basically
> put
> Oceanside Card Casino out of business, better location and a new batch
> of
> cheats. The old was replaced with the new.
>
>
> I was in Oceanside when Doyle and Chip owned OCC. I was there when Len
> Miller
> had OCC. Both places were crooked to the core.
>
>
> I was also in Bell Gardens when Yosh Nakano hosted a high stakes game
> at the
> Regency in Bell Gardens, Ca. This is the place Huck Seed and Phil
> Hellmuth, as
> well as many others were cheated by Doyle Brunson, Chip Reese, Stu
> Ungar and
> others. I was there also.
>
>
> Only a person that is totally ignorant would doubt I couldn't spot a
> game with
> marked cards in it. Only a person who is totally ignorant would doubt I
> could
> catch a cheat.
>
>
> Doyle Brunson, Chip Reese and Stu Ungar were among the cheats that
> played in
> California during the early to mid 90's. I was there, just one game
> away, doing
> my thing also.
>
>
> If this isn't current 1st hand information, you people are idiots. I
> was there
> watching them cheat as I was cheating myself. I would have been
> cheating the
> people they were cheating except they had that management.
>
>
> Bill Nirdlinger worked at the Regency where he was prosecuted for
> cheating a
> jackpot. He wasn't caught, but the place was doing so badly, it
> couldn't pay it
> off, and knowing his reputation he was prosecuted and convicted under
> an
> alias. John Martino was one of the players in this pre-arranged game to
> take
> this jackpot off. Jack McClellan, 'your tournament director' was also
> working
> there. The Regency was the old Bell Club that took over when Gardena
> was coming
> to an end. It is located about one mile north of the Bicycle Club on
> Eastern
> Avenue.
>
>
> This was California in the 90's. Doyle, Chip, Stu and many others were
> there
> cheating the suckers who would play with them. I was there watching and
> doing
> the same. You can deny all you want, but mine is 1st hand information
> for
> decades. If you think I can't scam, cheat or catch someone cheating,
> you are
> ignorant.
>
>
> Russ Georgiev
>
> http://www.pokermafia.com/
_______________________________________________________________
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