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FellKnight
03-30-2006, 01:18 AM
Okay, same guy that I pushed off the pot earlier. Here is the hand, what
do you think?

PokerStars Game #2886074204: Tournament #14115920, Hold'em No Limit -
Level IX (300/600) - 2005/10/24 - 22:25:06 (ET)
Table '14115920 28' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: DanielFerg (8120 in chips)
Seat 3: Hickboy (18875 in chips)
Seat 4: murphymike (52342 in chips)
Seat 5: twistin 1 (11811 in chips)
Seat 6: FellKnight (63558 in chips)
Seat 7: cliff819 (17920 in chips)
Seat 8: BeL0WaB0Ve (40322 in chips)
Seat 9: gavinM (13722 in chips)
DanielFerg: posts the ante 50
Hickboy: posts the ante 50
murphymike: posts the ante 50
twistin 1: posts the ante 50
FellKnight: posts the ante 50
cliff819: posts the ante 50
BeL0WaB0Ve: posts the ante 50
gavinM: posts the ante 50
Hickboy: posts small blind 300
murphymike: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FellKnight [Qc Qd]
cliff819 said, "good call"
twistin 1: folds
BeL0WaB0Ve said, "thx"
FellKnight: raises 1200 to 1800
cliff819: folds
BeL0WaB0Ve: raises 3600 to 5400
gavinM: folds
cliff819 said, "ace four"
DanielFerg: folds
Hickboy: folds
murphymike: folds
FellKnight: raises 6600 to 12000
BeL0WaB0Ve: raises 28272 to 40272 and is all-in
FellKnight: folds
BeL0WaB0Ve said, "nice fold.............."
BeL0WaB0Ve collected 25300 from pot
BeL0WaB0Ve: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 25300 | Rake 0
Seat 1: DanielFerg (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Hickboy (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: murphymike (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: twistin 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: FellKnight folded before Flop
Seat 7: cliff819 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BeL0WaB0Ve collected (25300)
Seat 9: gavinM folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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thenutlow
03-30-2006, 01:18 AM
On Oct 25 2005 4:35 AM, FellKnight wrote:

> Okay, same guy that I pushed off the pot earlier. Here is the hand, what
> do you think?

like the three-bet pre, really gives you a good line. Guess he is at
around AA/KK/AK/QQ here, and you dont do too good against that range.

> PokerStars Game #2886074204: Tournament #14115920, Hold'em No Limit -
> Level IX (300/600) - 2005/10/24 - 22:25:06 (ET)
> Table '14115920 28' Seat #1 is the button
> Seat 1: DanielFerg (8120 in chips)
> Seat 3: Hickboy (18875 in chips)
> Seat 4: murphymike (52342 in chips)
> Seat 5: twistin 1 (11811 in chips)
> Seat 6: FellKnight (63558 in chips)
> Seat 7: cliff819 (17920 in chips)
> Seat 8: BeL0WaB0Ve (40322 in chips)
> Seat 9: gavinM (13722 in chips)
> DanielFerg: posts the ante 50
> Hickboy: posts the ante 50
> murphymike: posts the ante 50
> twistin 1: posts the ante 50
> FellKnight: posts the ante 50
> cliff819: posts the ante 50
> BeL0WaB0Ve: posts the ante 50
> gavinM: posts the ante 50
> Hickboy: posts small blind 300
> murphymike: posts big blind 600
> *** HOLE CARDS ***
> Dealt to FellKnight [Qc Qd]
> cliff819 said, "good call"
> twistin 1: folds
> BeL0WaB0Ve said, "thx"
> FellKnight: raises 1200 to 1800
> cliff819: folds
> BeL0WaB0Ve: raises 3600 to 5400
> gavinM: folds
> cliff819 said, "ace four"
> DanielFerg: folds
> Hickboy: folds
> murphymike: folds
> FellKnight: raises 6600 to 12000
> BeL0WaB0Ve: raises 28272 to 40272 and is all-in
> FellKnight: folds
> BeL0WaB0Ve said, "nice fold.............."
> BeL0WaB0Ve collected 25300 from pot
> BeL0WaB0Ve: doesn't show hand
> *** SUMMARY ***
> Total pot 25300 | Rake 0
> Seat 1: DanielFerg (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
> Seat 3: Hickboy (small blind) folded before Flop
> Seat 4: murphymike (big blind) folded before Flop
> Seat 5: twistin 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
> Seat 6: FellKnight folded before Flop
> Seat 7: cliff819 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
> Seat 8: BeL0WaB0Ve collected (25300)
> Seat 9: gavinM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>
> Fell
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Weir
03-30-2006, 01:18 AM
prob a good laydown if you are pretty sure the guy is a decent player. like %70
on p-stars that guy is likely to have A10 or AJ or something.......so usually i
make the call. or 10-2 or suited connectors or any other 2 cards.

also seeing as a i get a premium hand like QQ once every few days i really feel
like i better go broke there instead of trying to bluff some guy who has flopped
the nuts for the 26th consecutive time .

but seeing as you are a good player im assuming the limits are pretty high, so
that makes it a laydown.


I play $15 sitngos and tournaments up to like $30, so maybe my opinion is based
off of those players.

On Oct 24 2005 9:43 PM, thenutlow wrote:

> On Oct 25 2005 4:35 AM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > Okay, same guy that I pushed off the pot earlier. Here is the hand, what
> > do you think?
>
> like the three-bet pre, really gives you a good line. Guess he is at
> around AA/KK/AK/QQ here, and you dont do too good against that range.
>
> > PokerStars Game #2886074204: Tournament #14115920, Hold'em No Limit -
> > Level IX (300/600) - 2005/10/24 - 22:25:06 (ET)
> > Table '14115920 28' Seat #1 is the button
> > Seat 1: DanielFerg (8120 in chips)
> > Seat 3: Hickboy (18875 in chips)
> > Seat 4: murphymike (52342 in chips)
> > Seat 5: twistin 1 (11811 in chips)
> > Seat 6: FellKnight (63558 in chips)
> > Seat 7: cliff819 (17920 in chips)
> > Seat 8: BeL0WaB0Ve (40322 in chips)
> > Seat 9: gavinM (13722 in chips)
> > DanielFerg: posts the ante 50
> > Hickboy: posts the ante 50
> > murphymike: posts the ante 50
> > twistin 1: posts the ante 50
> > FellKnight: posts the ante 50
> > cliff819: posts the ante 50
> > BeL0WaB0Ve: posts the ante 50
> > gavinM: posts the ante 50
> > Hickboy: posts small blind 300
> > murphymike: posts big blind 600
> > *** HOLE CARDS ***
> > Dealt to FellKnight [Qc Qd]
> > cliff819 said, "good call"
> > twistin 1: folds
> > BeL0WaB0Ve said, "thx"
> > FellKnight: raises 1200 to 1800
> > cliff819: folds
> > BeL0WaB0Ve: raises 3600 to 5400
> > gavinM: folds
> > cliff819 said, "ace four"
> > DanielFerg: folds
> > Hickboy: folds
> > murphymike: folds
> > FellKnight: raises 6600 to 12000
> > BeL0WaB0Ve: raises 28272 to 40272 and is all-in
> > FellKnight: folds
> > BeL0WaB0Ve said, "nice fold.............."
> > BeL0WaB0Ve collected 25300 from pot
> > BeL0WaB0Ve: doesn't show hand
> > *** SUMMARY ***
> > Total pot 25300 | Rake 0
> > Seat 1: DanielFerg (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
> > Seat 3: Hickboy (small blind) folded before Flop
> > Seat 4: murphymike (big blind) folded before Flop
> > Seat 5: twistin 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
> > Seat 6: FellKnight folded before Flop
> > Seat 7: cliff819 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
> > Seat 8: BeL0WaB0Ve collected (25300)
> > Seat 9: gavinM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
> >
> > Fell
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> > (STILL IN BETA MODE)
>
>
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Jesse Spencer
03-30-2006, 01:18 AM
> Fell

When Opp reraised first time, I'd think my QQ is in jeopardy and call.
OPP could be playing AKs, he will fold on more post flop bets than QQ
will. Save that re re re raise for big flop bet if all undercards.
Then folding to reraise is good move.
Flop AK2 or something fold yourself to large bet.
FellKnight
03-30-2006, 01:18 AM
On Oct 24 2005 8:20 PM, Jesse Spencer wrote:

> > Fell
>
> When Opp reraised first time, I'd think my QQ is in jeopardy and call.
> OPP could be playing AKs, he will fold on more post flop bets than QQ
> will. Save that re re re raise for big flop bet if all undercards.
> Then folding to reraise is good move.
> Flop AK2 or something fold yourself to large bet.

I hate the flat call with QQ. You lose lots on an undercard board, and
win less when you are ahead. The stacks are deep, and I want to see where
I am. also, we had a history, as I mentionned. I had made him lay down KK
on AA92 board, so I fully expected that he re-raise range was wider than
normal.

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FellKnight
03-30-2006, 01:18 AM
On Oct 24 2005 8:21 PM, Weir wrote:

> prob a good laydown if you are pretty sure the guy is a decent player. like
%70
> on p-stars that guy is likely to have A10 or AJ or something.......so
usually i
> make the call. or 10-2 or suited connectors or any other 2 cards.
>
> also seeing as a i get a premium hand like QQ once every few days i really
feel
> like i better go broke there instead of trying to bluff some guy who has
flopped
> the nuts for the 26th consecutive time .
>
> but seeing as you are a good player im assuming the limits are pretty high,
so
> that makes it a laydown.
>
>
> I play $15 sitngos and tournaments up to like $30, so maybe my opinion is
based
> off of those players.

Well this was only a $22R tourney, but still you're saying that a
re-re-re-raise all-in preflop means trash hands? Shite.

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Kincaid
03-30-2006, 01:18 AM
Are you gonna fold if he raises on the flop?

On Oct 24 2005 8:20 PM, Jesse Spencer wrote:

> > Fell
>
> When Opp reraised first time, I'd think my QQ is in jeopardy and call.
> OPP could be playing AKs, he will fold on more post flop bets than QQ
> will. Save that re re re raise for big flop bet if all undercards.
> Then folding to reraise is good move.
> Flop AK2 or something fold yourself to large bet.



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Weir
03-30-2006, 01:18 AM
allz im saying is that situation from a guy (UTG no less) did that in a sitngo
with 10-2. except he went all in!!!

i called with my aces to no avail.  


On Oct 24 2005 10:45 PM, FellKnight wrote:

> On Oct 24 2005 8:21 PM, Weir wrote:
>
> > prob a good laydown if you are pretty sure the guy is a decent player. like
> %70
> > on p-stars that guy is likely to have A10 or AJ or something.......so
> usually i
> > make the call. or 10-2 or suited connectors or any other 2 cards.
> >
> > also seeing as a i get a premium hand like QQ once every few days i really
> feel
> > like i better go broke there instead of trying to bluff some guy who has
> flopped
> > the nuts for the 26th consecutive time .
> >
> > but seeing as you are a good player im assuming the limits are pretty high,
> so
> > that makes it a laydown.
> >
> >
> > I play $15 sitngos and tournaments up to like $30, so maybe my opinion is
> based
> > off of those players.
>
> Well this was only a $22R tourney, but still you're saying that a
> re-re-re-raise all-in preflop means trash hands? Shite.
>
> Fell
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