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Newgca
04-04-2005, 12:43 AM
>Damn, I just remembered I read it in his book, not on RGP. I'm much to
>young to feel this damned old...
>
>Thanks for the replies.
>
>JT
>
>"TWal289" <twal289@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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>> >Subject: Sklanksy's(?) WSOP strategy for a friend
>> >From: "JTAutry" jtautry@yaho
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>> >I'm trying to find a post that I think was Sklansky's. It was about a
>> >friend's daughter playing in the WSOP or some big NL HE tourny, and a
>> >strategy that he had her stick to or something like that.
>>
>> It was Bob Stupaks daughter.Its also in his tournament book.Basically just
>go
>> allin everytime you get premium pairs and AK,maybe AQ and some medium
>pairs
>> too, I forget.
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From: Newgca (newgca@aol.com)
Subject: GCA "How to Beat 1 Table NO-LIMIT Tourneys"
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Newsgroups: rec.gambling.poker
Date: 2002-12-23 12:48:33 PST


How to beat the single table NO LIMIT ONLINE Tournaments

The first thing to realize is these single table tournaments are not like multi
table ones. The vast majority of the players are terrible. We will take a $33
single 10 handed tournament from Party Poker and go through it step by step.

The first you know is you receive T800 in chips. The blinds start at 10-15 for
10 hands, progress to 15-30 for 10 hands, proceed to 25-50 for 10 hands and
then reach 50-100 for 10 hands. Then the blinds keep going higher every 10
hands.

Smart play dictates you play EXTREMELY tight the first 3 rounds. You may want
to try this as an experiment just to see the validity of what I am about to
tell you. Buy into the tournament and push the away from the table button. Wait
for the 1st three rounds to go by and then start playing. Your stack at this
time would be -25 for the 1st round of blinds. -45 for the second round of
blinds and -75 for the 3rd round of blinds. You would now have a stack of T655
and would be ready to play. Probably the tournament would be down to 6 people
by now. You also have not played a hand and people are aware of it. Try this
with a $5 0r $10 tourney and see what happens.

Don't think you are now entitled to go into the game trying to steal. You now
wait, being much aware of your position. The blinds will be 50-100 now and when
you make your 1st move, bet your whole stack. It doesn't matter if you have AA
or AK, bet your whole stack.. These one table tournaments are not like multi
table ones. When you open, move you whole stack in if it is small. Much larger
stack still require opening bets of approximately 10 to 1 or all your chips.
You will find this is a difficult style to combat when playing these one table
tourneys.

The problem most people have playing the early stages is the blinds are small
and people tend to play to lose. Throw away small pairs, AJ and such. Don't
even think of playing these hands when opening the pot. First of all, most have
no idea of how much to open with. Say the blinds are 10-15. You are dealt a
pair of 10's. What do you open with? What happens if you are called?

Forget about playing these hands except in the blinds or on the button. What
happens in the early stages of these tourneys means very little. Better to get
the blinds than go out losing your money in bits and pieces. First under the
gun with AA, bet all your chips. Many of these people call with pairs and Ax.

I have seen some of the most atrocious play possible in these tourneys. A
person stacks off before the flop and is called by a pair of 33 or so. The best
the person could have is in the probability of a coin toss, if not much worse.
At the beginning of these NO LIMIT tourneys, play ever chip like it was your
last. The tourney starts when you hit the 50-100 blind area. By this time, you
will probably be down to 6 players and have a whole different perspective on
the game.

Stop opening with A6s,KQs, or garbage like this. If you can't stick all your
chips into the pot, don't open. Obviously you will find times you will be dealt
a pair of KK in the 10-15 blinds. Obviously if you stack off, you may and will
run into AA. Problem is if you do, you will get broke anyway, just in a
different manner.

Try the method I am explaining to you. It will work and many times when you do
stack off, you will be surprised what calls you. Stealing the blinds comes
later on in the tourney, at the 50-100 part. Here when down to 5-6 players, you
will be forced to attempt steals. Though not really steals from a sense. Here
you can stack off with smaller pairs and Ax when on the button or one away.

Isolation is the key to winning these tourneys. Take on and beat 1 player and
save enough chips to be able to take a blind or two without a mandatory call
because your stack is too small, when you get down to 6 players or so. The
number 1 priority is to get to the final 3 and a payoff. These tourneys are a
waiting game. Wait, even if you don't play a hand for the first 3 rounds. Avoid
the multi way pots and dumb medium pairs when opened in front of you. Wait
until the tourney gets short so you can stack off and get you 1 on 1 encounter.
Once you make the money, then you can play.

Remember one thing most of you don't know what to do. Early position, you are
dealt a pair of JJ with blinds of 15-30. What to do? Dump them and listen to
what I say. If you raise 60. 100 or 150, what happens? What happens when a over
card hits? What happens if you get multi callers? Realize all this does is hurt
you. For even if you do win a few hundred or double up, the tournaments starts
when the blinds go to 50-100.

One of the last things you want to call on of these all-in bets with is with a
small pair. Save playing these when you can stack off when down to 4 or 5
people. Far better to bet them, don't call with them, unless down to the last 2
or 3. This is probably the best way to become proficient at these small one
table satellites. Don't gamble and play hands early. It doesn't matter what you
do until you reach the 50-100 level. Just make sure you have enough chips to be
able to get the blinds without showing down. Winning without showing your hand
is a big benefit in these satellites. Obviously you will get nailed by a big
pair once in a while, but remember, you are also playing them and only them
early in the tourney. Either stack off, bet half your stack or fold. VERY
SIMPLE.

Just stop losing these 30's 15's and other small amounts. I guarantee you will
have much better tournament success with this advice than any you have ever
received before.

I will be posting how to play the 1 table limit tourneys next.

Russ Georgiev

Mike Hollman
04-04-2005, 12:43 AM
wow Russ, good post. I often buy into a 30 or even 50$$ tourney on party
and post blind and fold for 15 minutes. When I come back, I normally
still have well over 700 chips and at least two or three people are gone.
The way I figure it, with this strategy, my average profit from these
tourneys is at least 20%. With much of the subsequent play, I'd say I
average about 75$ for every 50$ tourney I enter.
On Jul 24 2003 5:29PM, Newgca wrote:

> >Damn, I just remembered I read it in his book, not on RGP. I'm much to
> >young to feel this damned old...
> >
> >Thanks for the replies.
> >
> >JT
> >
> >"TWal289" <twal289@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> >news:20030724120340.14731.00000405@mb-m04.aol.com...
> >> >Subject: Sklanksy's(?) WSOP strategy for a friend
> >> >From: "JTAutry" jtautry@yaho
> >>
> >> >I'm trying to find a post that I think was Sklansky's. It was about a
> >> >friend's daughter playing in the WSOP or some big NL HE tourny, and a
> >> >strategy that he had her stick to or something like that.
> >>
> >> It was Bob Stupaks daughter.Its also in his tournament book.Basically just
> >go
> >> allin everytime you get premium pairs and AK,maybe AQ and some medium
> >pairs
> >> too, I forget.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Search Result 6
> From: Newgca (newgca@aol.com)
> Subject: GCA "How to Beat 1 Table NO-LIMIT Tourneys"
> View: Complete Thread (6 articles)
> Original Format
> Newsgroups: rec.gambling.poker
> Date: 2002-12-23 12:48:33 PST
>
>
> How to beat the single table NO LIMIT ONLINE Tournaments
>
> The first thing to realize is these single table tournaments are not like
multi
> table ones. The vast majority of the players are terrible. We will take a $33
> single 10 handed tournament from Party Poker and go through it step by step.
>
> The first you know is you receive T800 in chips. The blinds start at 10-15
for
> 10 hands, progress to 15-30 for 10 hands, proceed to 25-50 for 10 hands and
> then reach 50-100 for 10 hands. Then the blinds keep going higher every 10
> hands.
>
> Smart play dictates you play EXTREMELY tight the first 3 rounds. You may want
> to try this as an experiment just to see the validity of what I am about to
> tell you. Buy into the tournament and push the away from the table button.
Wait
> for the 1st three rounds to go by and then start playing. Your stack at this
> time would be -25 for the 1st round of blinds. -45 for the second round of
> blinds and -75 for the 3rd round of blinds. You would now have a stack of
T655
> and would be ready to play. Probably the tournament would be down to 6 people
> by now. You also have not played a hand and people are aware of it. Try this
> with a $5 0r $10 tourney and see what happens.
>
> Don't think you are now entitled to go into the game trying to steal. You now
> wait, being much aware of your position. The blinds will be 50-100 now and
when
> you make your 1st move, bet your whole stack. It doesn't matter if you have
AA
> or AK, bet your whole stack.. These one table tournaments are not like multi
> table ones. When you open, move you whole stack in if it is small. Much
larger
> stack still require opening bets of approximately 10 to 1 or all your chips.
> You will find this is a difficult style to combat when playing these one
table
> tourneys.
>
> The problem most people have playing the early stages is the blinds are small
> and people tend to play to lose. Throw away small pairs, AJ and such. Don't
> even think of playing these hands when opening the pot. First of all, most
have
> no idea of how much to open with. Say the blinds are 10-15. You are dealt a
> pair of 10's. What do you open with? What happens if you are called?
>
> Forget about playing these hands except in the blinds or on the button. What
> happens in the early stages of these tourneys means very little. Better to
get
> the blinds than go out losing your money in bits and pieces. First under the
> gun with AA, bet all your chips. Many of these people call with pairs and Ax.
>
> I have seen some of the most atrocious play possible in these tourneys. A
> person stacks off before the flop and is called by a pair of 33 or so. The
best
> the person could have is in the probability of a coin toss, if not much
worse.
> At the beginning of these NO LIMIT tourneys, play ever chip like it was your
> last. The tourney starts when you hit the 50-100 blind area. By this time,
you
> will probably be down to 6 players and have a whole different perspective on
> the game.
>
> Stop opening with A6s,KQs, or garbage like this. If you can't stick all your
> chips into the pot, don't open. Obviously you will find times you will be
dealt
> a pair of KK in the 10-15 blinds. Obviously if you stack off, you may and
will
> run into AA. Problem is if you do, you will get broke anyway, just in a
> different manner.
>
> Try the method I am explaining to you. It will work and many times when you
do
> stack off, you will be surprised what calls you. Stealing the blinds comes
> later on in the tourney, at the 50-100 part. Here when down to 5-6 players,
you
> will be forced to attempt steals. Though not really steals from a sense. Here
> you can stack off with smaller pairs and Ax when on the button or one away.
>
> Isolation is the key to winning these tourneys. Take on and beat 1 player and
> save enough chips to be able to take a blind or two without a mandatory call
> because your stack is too small, when you get down to 6 players or so. The
> number 1 priority is to get to the final 3 and a payoff. These tourneys are a
> waiting game. Wait, even if you don't play a hand for the first 3 rounds.
Avoid
> the multi way pots and dumb medium pairs when opened in front of you. Wait
> until the tourney gets short so you can stack off and get you 1 on 1
encounter.
> Once you make the money, then you can play.
>
> Remember one thing most of you don't know what to do. Early position, you
are
> dealt a pair of JJ with blinds of 15-30. What to do? Dump them and listen to
> what I say. If you raise 60. 100 or 150, what happens? What happens when a
over
> card hits? What happens if you get multi callers? Realize all this does is
hurt
> you. For even if you do win a few hundred or double up, the tournaments
starts
> when the blinds go to 50-100.
>
> One of the last things you want to call on of these all-in bets with is with
a
> small pair. Save playing these when you can stack off when down to 4 or 5
> people. Far better to bet them, don't call with them, unless down to the
last 2
> or 3. This is probably the best way to become proficient at these small one
> table satellites. Don't gamble and play hands early. It doesn't matter what
you
> do until you reach the 50-100 level. Just make sure you have enough chips to
be
> able to get the blinds without showing down. Winning without showing your
hand
> is a big benefit in these satellites. Obviously you will get nailed by a big
> pair once in a while, but remember, you are also playing them and only them
> early in the tourney. Either stack off, bet half your stack or fold. VERY
> SIMPLE.
>
> Just stop losing these 30's 15's and other small amounts. I guarantee you
will
> have much better tournament success with this advice than any you have ever
> received before.
>
> I will be posting how to play the 1 table limit tourneys next.
>
> Russ Georgiev

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