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Can someone please explain this to me in detail with all the various
options.
In one casino I had a 5 and so did the other guy. There were two 5's
in the middle and I lost because he had a bigger kicker. Yet in
another casino it was a shared pot.
What if there were three 5's in the middle and no one had anything
else, would the kicker count here ?
How about four 5's in the middle, would the kicker count here ?
What are all the permitations.
Lame questions, but very much appreciated to help a novice.
Cheers.
Slim.
James Campbell
05-01-2005, 12:40 PM
The winning hand is the best 5 cards. So let's use the hand you mentioned:
You hold 5s, 7s
Your opponent holds 5d, 8s
Board is 5c, 5h, Ac, 2s, 4s
He would win since his/her best 5 card hand is 5c, 5h, 5d, Ac, 8s which is
bigger than your best 5 card hand 5c, 5h, 5s, Ac, 7s
The kicker is the "other" card that you hold in your hand, in this case your
kicker would be the 7s which is smaller than his 8s. However the kicker
doesn't always play, meaning that the cards on the board are bigger than
both of the players kicker. Here is an example of that:
You hold 5s, 7s
Your opponent holds 4d, 7c
Board is 7h, 7d, As, Qh, 8d
The best 5 card hand either of you can make is 3 7's, As, Qh so the pot
would be split.
Hope this helps.
James
"slim" <fitnessanalyst@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Can someone please explain this to me in detail with all the various
> options.
>
> In one casino I had a 5 and so did the other guy. There were two 5's
> in the middle and I lost because he had a bigger kicker. Yet in
> another casino it was a shared pot.
>
> What if there were three 5's in the middle and no one had anything
> else, would the kicker count here ?
>
> How about four 5's in the middle, would the kicker count here ?
>
> What are all the permitations.
>
> Lame questions, but very much appreciated to help a novice.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Slim.
Debbie in Ohio
05-01-2005, 12:40 PM
Good Thing I had read some books on this, before I went to play live, as
someone tried to hoodwink me on it, and I grinned at him, and said, I might
look like fresh fish, but I'm only half fish.
The river card is higher than both our kickers, so we split it (and we did).
James Campbell <jamescam7@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The winning hand is the best 5 cards. So let's use the hand you
mentioned:
>
> You hold 5s, 7s
> Your opponent holds 5d, 8s
>
> Board is 5c, 5h, Ac, 2s, 4s
>
> He would win since his/her best 5 card hand is 5c, 5h, 5d, Ac, 8s which is
> bigger than your best 5 card hand 5c, 5h, 5s, Ac, 7s
>
> The kicker is the "other" card that you hold in your hand, in this case
your
> kicker would be the 7s which is smaller than his 8s. However the kicker
> doesn't always play, meaning that the cards on the board are bigger than
> both of the players kicker. Here is an example of that:
>
> You hold 5s, 7s
> Your opponent holds 4d, 7c
>
> Board is 7h, 7d, As, Qh, 8d
>
> The best 5 card hand either of you can make is 3 7's, As, Qh so the pot
> would be split.
> Hope this helps.
>
> James
>
> "slim" <fitnessanalyst@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
> news:a3e98863.0308121553.4a3a530c@posting.google.com...
> > Can someone please explain this to me in detail with all the various
> > options.
> >
> > In one casino I had a 5 and so did the other guy. There were two 5's
> > in the middle and I lost because he had a bigger kicker. Yet in
> > another casino it was a shared pot.
> >
> > What if there were three 5's in the middle and no one had anything
> > else, would the kicker count here ?
> >
> > How about four 5's in the middle, would the kicker count here ?
> >
> > What are all the permitations.
> >
> > Lame questions, but very much appreciated to help a novice.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Slim.
>
>
Jeff Porten
05-01-2005, 02:06 PM
Debbie in Ohio wrote:
> Good Thing I had read some books on this, before I went to play live, as
> someone tried to hoodwink me on it, and I grinned at him, and said, I might
> look like fresh fish, but I'm only half fish.
Might also have been an honest mistake -- it takes a second or two to
see if the kicker plays or if the board does.
When in doubt, ALWAYS table your hand and have the dealer do the math.
At most of the tables I play, you'll hear one or two players
simultaneously call "kicker good" and "kicker no good" (everyone at the
table being the next incarnation of Stuey), and it can be a bit
confusing. The dealer should then push up three cards to indicate
what's playing from the board to make the winning hand(s).