Calm down there, Debbie, I wasn't flaming with you, just disagreeing with
you and citing examples. The fact is, the travel channel did not, by any
means "outscoop" ESPN by showing Chris Moneymaker winning. It has been a
well-publicized event for a long time. The reason why you didn't notice it
then, but do now, is because you were not then interested in poker, and when
you did hear about it, paid it no attention. Now that you are more aware of
the poker community, hearing the winner finally clicked with you.
If you ask a non-sports fan who won the MLB World Series last year, they
may have no clue. But lets say you start getting into baseball all of a
sudden, and start watching last year's re-runs on sportschannel. Its new to
you. Its great. Then, you flick on ESPN and there is a commercial about
the "World Series Champion Angels" upcoming game.. This may be the first
time YOU heard it, but its been in the news for ages, you just always tuned
it out prior to this. Travel Channel is hardly scooping the story. You are
just paying attention to it for the first time.
You don't watch letterman or leno, fine. But what about watch the news,
read a newspaper, watch ANY morning show (today, GMA, The Morning Show,
etc), read a newsgroup!! (Moneymaker's name has been mention about 1000
times on this forum alone.do a search, his winning has been mention MANY
times in the past week, past 2 weeks, past month, etc. If anything, the ad
is a boon for ESPN, as a lot of Travel Channel newbies probably never even
heard of the WSOP. They probably only know the less prestigious WPT. Now,
they may try to find out what channel it's on to watch it. It's pre-assumed
knowledge. Heck, you can see Moneymaker's picture everytime the show the
wall of winners. It's hardly a secret. Just because you are delightfully
oblivious to your surroundings doesnt mean that people are going to go out
of their way to tiptoe around you.
In the very first WSOP show this year, they mentioned last year's winner
Robert Virkonyi. Did that ruin anything for you? You can still catch the
showing of the FT on reruns quite often. (I don't wanna ruin it for you, but
Phil Helmuth gets his head shaved when he loses a prop bet.ooops! )
In fact, I can tell you that in the first tournament of the upcoming WPT
season, the most interesting hand, and, in fact, most likely the turning
point of the entire tournament, won't even be show on TV, because it
happened right before the final table of 6. Because it won't make TV, most
people will never know how much this one hand effected the whole outcome of
the show. Wanna know about it? Cause you'll never see it on TV.
Wanna know who comes in 2nd place? ;) Wanna know why people don't like
Dutch Boyd? Wanna know the Hand that wins it for MM? It's all information
that is common knowledge. Don't get upset because you are late arriving to
the party.
"Debbie in Ohio" <nospam_cincygirl@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:M48%a.101732$0v4.7025911@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Well, I'm sure that there were a LOT of us who did NOT know, and it's the
> mystery of it all that adds to it as well, as one watches.
>
> BTW ... one shouldn't ASSUME (and think about the word Ass - U - Me and
what
> it can mean) that everyone watching the shows, be it WPT or WSOP already
> knows the outcome, as I sure didn't for the WSOP, nor the first time I
> watched the WPT shows either.
>
> I don't watch Letterman (I don't watch Leno either ... I was a Johnny
Carson
> fan, but Leno is No Carson) as well ... he's very stale, and IMO I think
he
> just does his show these days to show up the collect his paycheck and
> nothing more ... and I only got into poker about 8 or 9 weeks ago via WPT
on
> The Travel Channel, only started playing myself, 5 or 6 weeks ago.
>
> Many of us NEWBIES to Poker who I suspect, are the ones boosting the
ratings
> for the WPT and WSOP shows, did NOT know, and didn't/don't need to have it
> waved in our faces either.
>
> As for the next one, how could you know who it is, when from what I
> understand, the WSOP for 2004 won't even be held, until March or May (I
> forget which) of 2004, and the (new) WPT matches/Tourney's ... are just
now
> gearing up in the next few months to be run, and thus filmed?
>
>
> Dave L <dlilie@cox.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:va%_a.108$j26.98@lakeread02...
> > I disagree. Most people already knew who won. It was in the "real"
news,
> > and he had already been on Letterman, leno, good morning america, today,
> > etc... His face was EVERYWHERE right after the win. In fact, his
> letterman
> > repeat has already aired at least once. People who weren't into poker
> > didn't notice, because they didn't care. Just as people not into poker
> not
> > wont notice or care about the ESPN commercials.
> >
> > If you want, I can tell you who won the first event of the new WPT, as
can
> > probably 1000 other RGP readers. Whenever events are taped, the info is
> out
> > there. I know who goes out when in the WSOP, some of the upcoming
hands,
> > and whatnot, but I'm still gonna watch, because they WAY they play is
just
> > as interesting to me as the final results. In fact, I watch the same
> shows
> > over and over, as I am sure many people here also do. It's a good
> learning
> > tool and the games, even those I may have seen 10 times, STILL hold my
> > interest.
> >
> > "Debbie in Ohio" <nospam_cincygirl@pobox.com> wrote in message
> > news:YXZ_a.99538$3o3.6918750@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > >
> > > Mattsana <mattsana@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20030814231241.07273.00000007@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > > > >Now, we got to wait a week for the next one.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe two weeks;-)
> > >
> > > Doesn't really matter so much Matt anymore. Like most Suck out
artists,
> > you
> > > weakened your winning hand there from a win to a loss ... when you
> dragged
> > > it out and thus let The Travel Channel Best you ... when two weeks
ago,
> > they
> > > started running commercials on The Travel Channel during the WPT ...
> with
> > > the Winner of the World Series of Poker, promoting the Online Poker
site
> > > that he won his entry into the WSOP from.
> > >
> > > In other words, many people like myself already know who the winner of
> the
> > > WSOP is/was, who might not otherwise of known. By the time ESPN
decides
> > to
> > > run the final hour, almost everyone who is into Poker, who didn't know
> > > before, will most likely know who won the event, without watching it
on
> > > ESPN.
> > >
> > > In other words, ESPN has slow played their pre-flop bullet Pocket Aces
> > into
> > > nothing or next to nothing.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>