TC
05-01-2005, 04:20 PM
So my friend and I (20 and 19, respectively) saddled up and drove out to
New York to play at Turning Stone for a couple of days. I was the kid in
the Element hat, in case any of you were there. I'd never been in a
casino before, and probably the most shocking thing (old hat for all of
you, I'm sure) was seeing the endless legions of old ladies pumping their
money into the slot machines. It was surreal.
We had originally planned to play in the Wednesday $50 NL event, but after
talking to some people about the structure, the unlimited rebuys made it
sound like the tourney was a joke, or at the very least, that you had to
sink a lot more than $50 in to play right, so we passed on it and stuck to
the ring games.
I started at the 3/6 the first night, made about $300 there, and then
proceeded to lose it at the 5/10. I'm pretty sure a string of bad luck
was to blame (aces cracked by jacks catching their set on the turn lost me
a $150 pot right there), but that brings up a question I've had; what are
some indicators you can look for to tell if you're being outplayed?
I ended up back at the 3/6, made another $200 there, and our trip was
over. I was playing quite a bit looser than I usually play, but
fortunately, it seemed to work out all right. I was expecting harder
competition than online and was pleasantly surprised at the lack of
strength in the games.
Anyway, there was one hand I saw that really threw me, and I wanted some
opinions on it. My friend and I are playing about six-handed at the 3/6
around 4am, and a guy sits at the table (he seemed to be buddies with the
dealer) who was a textbook maniac, raising everything.
My friend wakes up with cowboys. Maniac raises preflop, friend makes it
three bets, one cold caller, and the maniac caps it.
Flops comes Q-T-3 rainbow. Maniac bets out, friend raises, other guy
passes, maniac makes it three bets. Friend doesn't give him any credit
for a hand and takes it to four. Maniac plays back and makes it five.
Friend makes it six bets (I don't know how I feel about that, but as it
turns out, he was right), and maniac takes it to SEVEN. So now my friend
is acknowledging that he's in trouble, assuredly out against a set or at
least queens up. So he calls.
Turn comes (Q-T-3) 6, maniac bets, friend calls. River comes (Q-T-3-6) 8,
maniac bets, friend calls. Maniac shows down J9o, for the straight on the
river.
The guy made it SEVEN BETS on a draw??? How does one do this? It seems
like that kind of play is so weak that there is no justification, even for
a maniac, except for two possibilities:
1) The guy was cheating.
2) The guy was luck-oriented and "knew" he'd make his straight.
Anyway, my friend went on some serious tilt after that, so we took off
shortly thereafter. Overall, the trip was fun, but as far as making
profit goes, I think I'll stick to online play. And if anyone has any
thoughts on that hand, I'm listening.
TC
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New York to play at Turning Stone for a couple of days. I was the kid in
the Element hat, in case any of you were there. I'd never been in a
casino before, and probably the most shocking thing (old hat for all of
you, I'm sure) was seeing the endless legions of old ladies pumping their
money into the slot machines. It was surreal.
We had originally planned to play in the Wednesday $50 NL event, but after
talking to some people about the structure, the unlimited rebuys made it
sound like the tourney was a joke, or at the very least, that you had to
sink a lot more than $50 in to play right, so we passed on it and stuck to
the ring games.
I started at the 3/6 the first night, made about $300 there, and then
proceeded to lose it at the 5/10. I'm pretty sure a string of bad luck
was to blame (aces cracked by jacks catching their set on the turn lost me
a $150 pot right there), but that brings up a question I've had; what are
some indicators you can look for to tell if you're being outplayed?
I ended up back at the 3/6, made another $200 there, and our trip was
over. I was playing quite a bit looser than I usually play, but
fortunately, it seemed to work out all right. I was expecting harder
competition than online and was pleasantly surprised at the lack of
strength in the games.
Anyway, there was one hand I saw that really threw me, and I wanted some
opinions on it. My friend and I are playing about six-handed at the 3/6
around 4am, and a guy sits at the table (he seemed to be buddies with the
dealer) who was a textbook maniac, raising everything.
My friend wakes up with cowboys. Maniac raises preflop, friend makes it
three bets, one cold caller, and the maniac caps it.
Flops comes Q-T-3 rainbow. Maniac bets out, friend raises, other guy
passes, maniac makes it three bets. Friend doesn't give him any credit
for a hand and takes it to four. Maniac plays back and makes it five.
Friend makes it six bets (I don't know how I feel about that, but as it
turns out, he was right), and maniac takes it to SEVEN. So now my friend
is acknowledging that he's in trouble, assuredly out against a set or at
least queens up. So he calls.
Turn comes (Q-T-3) 6, maniac bets, friend calls. River comes (Q-T-3-6) 8,
maniac bets, friend calls. Maniac shows down J9o, for the straight on the
river.
The guy made it SEVEN BETS on a draw??? How does one do this? It seems
like that kind of play is so weak that there is no justification, even for
a maniac, except for two possibilities:
1) The guy was cheating.
2) The guy was luck-oriented and "knew" he'd make his straight.
Anyway, my friend went on some serious tilt after that, so we took off
shortly thereafter. Overall, the trip was fun, but as far as making
profit goes, I think I'll stick to online play. And if anyone has any
thoughts on that hand, I'm listening.
TC
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