now this is why I think online poker is fixed to ensure the fish last longer

[biggestfish]

I'm in MP with AdAh at the $100 NL tables. Raise $25 get two callers flop
comes 10 5 2 two diamonds. I go all in for my remaining $50 to make it
expensive for any 10 to catch his kicker. and both call one is holding 99
the other A4 no flush draw. Now nobody in their right mind would call $25
99 or A4o when a tight player raises but that's another story. Well the
turn brings the 9d and the river a 3 for his gut shot. How in the world
would these 2 last more than one week without pulling a second mortgage?

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[Acecardz]

What site?

Mark

[Adam Trace Spragg]

biggestfish <anonymous@hotmail.com> wrote:
: I'm in MP with AdAh at the $100 NL tables. Raise $25 get two callers flop
: comes 10 5 2 two diamonds. I go all in for my remaining $50 to make it
: expensive for any 10 to catch his kicker. and both call one is holding 99
: the other A4 no flush draw. Now nobody in their right mind would call $25
: 99 or A4o when a tight player raises but that's another story. Well the
: turn brings the 9d and the river a 3 for his gut shot. How in the world
: would these 2 last more than one week without pulling a second mortgage?

I dunno about that... they beat you, didn't they? :D

If you're going to claim that online poker is fixed, please tell me
you've got better evidence than that...?

Adam

[biggestfish]

yes they did beat me and I'm just looking for some cheese with my whine.
Did I tell you about the cash out blues? Won a quick 1k this weekend
cashed out and then yesterday I lost $100 when I should have won like $400
and today but I'm only up $63 when it should be like +300. Did I tell you
about my flopped set of QQ top set and some fool calls with K7o. Hits a 7
and gets a perfect runners KK. Or how does someone call 85o for $20 and
flop the straight against my KK. I need a break from this online crapola
:) well gl.
On Aug 26 2003 11:45AM, Adam Trace Spragg wrote:

> biggestfish <anonymous@hotmail.com> wrote:
> : I'm in MP with AdAh at the $100 NL tables. Raise $25 get two callers flop
> : comes 10 5 2 two diamonds. I go all in for my remaining $50 to make it
> : expensive for any 10 to catch his kicker. and both call one is holding 99
> : the other A4 no flush draw. Now nobody in their right mind would call $25
> : 99 or A4o when a tight player raises but that's another story. Well the
> : turn brings the 9d and the river a 3 for his gut shot. How in the world
> : would these 2 last more than one week without pulling a second mortgage?
>
> I dunno about that... they beat you, didn't they? :D
>
> If you're going to claim that online poker is fixed, please tell me
> you've got better evidence than that...?
>
> Adam

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[arlo payne]

You need to get back on your meds!

They last because you feed them money.
You lost a hand get over it and back on those meds quickly!

On Aug 26 2003 10:51AM, biggestfish wrote:

> I'm in MP with AdAh at the $100 NL tables. Raise $25 get two callers flop
> comes 10 5 2 two diamonds. I go all in for my remaining $50 to make it
> expensive for any 10 to catch his kicker. and both call one is holding 99
> the other A4 no flush draw. Now nobody in their right mind would call $25
> 99 or A4o when a tight player raises but that's another story. Well the
> turn brings the 9d and the river a 3 for his gut shot. How in the world
> would these 2 last more than one week without pulling a second mortgage?

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[DynaMike]

You sound like you're just venting some frustration here, so I'm gonna
bash you for whining like a girl. What does worry me is your belief that
you "should" be up $300. How the fuck do you think you won $1000 without
people making bad calls.

When you beat them, you're good. When they suckout, it's rigged? Come
on.


On Aug 26 2003 4:34PM, biggestfish wrote:

> yes they did beat me and I'm just looking for some cheese with my whine.
> Did I tell you about the cash out blues? Won a quick 1k this weekend
> cashed out and then yesterday I lost $100 when I should have won like $400
> and today but I'm only up $63 when it should be like +300. Did I tell you
> about my flopped set of QQ top set and some fool calls with K7o. Hits a 7
> and gets a perfect runners KK. Or how does someone call 85o for $20 and
> flop the straight against my KK. I need a break from this online crapola
> :) well gl.
> On Aug 26 2003 11:45AM, Adam Trace Spragg wrote:
>
> > biggestfish <anonymous@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > : I'm in MP with AdAh at the $100 NL tables. Raise $25 get two callers flop
> > : comes 10 5 2 two diamonds. I go all in for my remaining $50 to make it
> > : expensive for any 10 to catch his kicker. and both call one is holding 99
> > : the other A4 no flush draw. Now nobody in their right mind would call $25
> > : 99 or A4o when a tight player raises but that's another story. Well the
> > : turn brings the 9d and the river a 3 for his gut shot. How in the world
> > : would these 2 last more than one week without pulling a second mortgage?
> >
> > I dunno about that... they beat you, didn't they? :D
> >
> > If you're going to claim that online poker is fixed, please tell me
> > you've got better evidence than that...?
> >
> > Adam

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[biggestfish]

lol so you didn't get the sarcasm in the post you replied to. :) well
somedays you just gotta take your $63 and run :)
On Aug 26 2003 3:39PM, DynaMike wrote:

> You sound like you're just venting some frustration here, so I'm gonna
> bash you for whining like a girl. What does worry me is your belief that
> you "should" be up $300. How the fuck do you think you won $1000 without
> people making bad calls.
>
> When you beat them, you're good. When they suckout, it's rigged? Come
> on.
>
>
> On Aug 26 2003 4:34PM, biggestfish wrote:
>
> > yes they did beat me and I'm just looking for some cheese with my whine.
> > Did I tell you about the cash out blues? Won a quick 1k this weekend
> > cashed out and then yesterday I lost $100 when I should have won like $400
> > and today but I'm only up $63 when it should be like +300. Did I tell you
> > about my flopped set of QQ top set and some fool calls with K7o. Hits a 7
> > and gets a perfect runners KK. Or how does someone call 85o for $20 and
> > flop the straight against my KK. I need a break from this online crapola
> > :) well gl.
> > On Aug 26 2003 11:45AM, Adam Trace Spragg wrote:
> >
> > > biggestfish <anonymous@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > : I'm in MP with AdAh at the $100 NL tables. Raise $25 get two callers
flop
> > > : comes 10 5 2 two diamonds. I go all in for my remaining $50 to make it
> > > : expensive for any 10 to catch his kicker. and both call one is holding
99
> > > : the other A4 no flush draw. Now nobody in their right mind would call
$25
> > > : 99 or A4o when a tight player raises but that's another story. Well the
> > > : turn brings the 9d and the river a 3 for his gut shot. How in the world
> > > : would these 2 last more than one week without pulling a second
mortgage?
> > >
> > > I dunno about that... they beat you, didn't they? :D
> > >
> > > If you're going to claim that online poker is fixed, please tell me
> > > you've got better evidence than that...?
> > >
> > > Adam

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[ray]

Online poker is rigged to some extent and anyone who doesnt think so is
a freaking idiot. There is a reason why the sites charge less rake than
b& m and its not cuz they deal more hands. If it were square the rake
would be the same..

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[John Harkness]

On 27 Aug 2003 00:28:55 GMT, ray </';> wrote:

>Online poker is rigged to some extent and anyone who doesnt think so is
>a freaking idiot. There is a reason why the sites charge less rake than
>b& m and its not cuz they deal more hands. If it were square the rake
>would be the same..
>


I'm intrigued by the logic of this -- Online poker doesn't have to pay
dealers, floorman, maintain a large physical plant -- they have fewer
expenses. So why should they charge the same rake?

John Harkness

[Ray]

Well John.

They have servers and they do have employees who they pay. It doesnt
really matter anyway all the money is back in the owners pockets in the
end.

Shit it is in their pockets now until you cashout

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[nutspp]

Well, I been playing on partypoker about 4 month and been wining about 3000
to 6000$ a month. I do not have any poker table to play live so I have to
play online or not play at all.

Some times I had a banch of stupid calls that beat me with a magic hand on
the river so I migrate my hand history of poker traker to an excell sheet.
Although not all the flops are complete because much of my hands do not get
to the river, the results are quite normal. And shows that the game is quite
fair.

10.000 hands

theory
62.89% 2 cards suited on tabl
32.62% 3 cards suited on tabl
4.29% 4 cards suited on tabl
0.20% 5 cards suited on tabl


tables on partypoker
63.28% 2 cards suited on tabl
28.40% 3 cards suited on tabl
4.12% 4 cards suited on tabl
0.19% 5 cards suited on tabl




I did it also with pairs, 3 of a kind and 4 of a kind on flop with similar
results.

This is really easy to do and all of the people that think party is fixed
can do it. If somebody wants to see all the hands I can send them by email


sorry for my english

Alvaro


"biggestfish" <anonymous@hotmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:3f4b9e0d$0$23182$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...
> I'm in MP with AdAh at the $100 NL tables. Raise $25 get two callers flop
> comes 10 5 2 two diamonds. I go all in for my remaining $50 to make it
> expensive for any 10 to catch his kicker. and both call one is holding 99
> the other A4 no flush draw. Now nobody in their right mind would call $25
> 99 or A4o when a tight player raises but that's another story. Well the
> turn brings the 9d and the river a 3 for his gut shot. How in the world
> would these 2 last more than one week without pulling a second mortgage?
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
>

[Ron]

There it is the big winners post. I guess we should all think it is fair
because of one person they let WIN big.

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[nutspp]

I do not know if you think your answer before you write it down, or you are
too bore and just want to mess up a little.

I just play 5/10 on party poker, I am sure there are a lot of people that
win much more than I do at higher limits. I just posted my winnings to make
the people see that they are kind of regular. And I am sure you win $20000
or more a month. Just do not be so cruel with the people that are just
learning.

b.t.w, did you read the last part of the post?

regards

"Ron" <./.> escribió en el mensaje
news:3f4c1586$0$62076$75868355@news.frii.net...
> There it is the big winners post. I guess we should all think it is fair
> because of one person they let WIN big.
>
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>
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[nutspp]

yes, I do not play NL because of that.

If you hit your set on the flop it is hard not to call all-in. It is like in
"rounders", you have A9 with A99T3 table and with 3 suited cards. you do not
go all-in??? the % that some body has AA are minimum but non 0%. It is a
risk you have to take.

2.5K in NL is a great way to go. keep it up!!!!



"biggestfish" <anonymous@hotmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:3f4c184f$0$23252$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...
> thx for the info nutspp and yes my stats came out fairly in order. You
> must play the 15/30 limit and congrats on the success. I play the NL and
> do well I'm at about 2.5k a month except I also play the SNG tournies.
> Well my beef is the big hands vs big hands. AA vs. KK set vs. set, flopped
> flush vs. flopped set. These are the hands that at NL one has little
> chance to get away from. You loose a lot of money in NL this way. There
> is no way for me to compute the chances of a big hand vs. big hand
> On Aug 26 2003 6:59PM, nutspp wrote:
>
> > Well, I been playing on partypoker about 4 month and been wining about
3000
> > to 6000$ a month. I do not have any poker table to play live so I have
to
> > play online or not play at all.
> >
> > Some times I had a banch of stupid calls that beat me with a magic hand
on
> > the river so I migrate my hand history of poker traker to an excell
sheet.
> > Although not all the flops are complete because much of my hands do not
get
> > to the river, the results are quite normal. And shows that the game is
quite
> > fair.
> >
> > 10.000 hands
> >
> > theory
> > 62.89% 2 cards suited on tabl
> > 32.62% 3 cards suited on tabl
> > 4.29% 4 cards suited on tabl
> > 0.20% 5 cards suited on tabl
> >
> >
> > tables on partypoker
> > 63.28% 2 cards suited on tabl
> > 28.40% 3 cards suited on tabl
> > 4.12% 4 cards suited on tabl
> > 0.19% 5 cards suited on tabl
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I did it also with pairs, 3 of a kind and 4 of a kind on flop with
similar
> > results.
> >
> > This is really easy to do and all of the people that think party is
fixed
> > can do it. If somebody wants to see all the hands I can send them by
email
> >
> >
> > sorry for my english
> >
> > Alvaro
> >
> >
> > "biggestfish" <anonymous@hotmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
> > news:3f4b9e0d$0$23182$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...
> > > I'm in MP with AdAh at the $100 NL tables. Raise $25 get two callers
flop
> > > comes 10 5 2 two diamonds. I go all in for my remaining $50 to make
it
> > > expensive for any 10 to catch his kicker. and both call one is holding
99
> > > the other A4 no flush draw. Now nobody in their right mind would call
$25
> > > 99 or A4o when a tight player raises but that's another story. Well
the
> > > turn brings the 9d and the river a 3 for his gut shot. How in the
world
> > > would these 2 last more than one week without pulling a second
mortgage?
> > >
>
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>
>

[Raaid Ahmad]

I am relatively new to poker and by no means can I claim to know about all
the swings that occur from day to day or even from hour to hour. I could
be one of those fish, who knows.

It could be a subconscious change in the way I play, but the trend I have
noticed on partypoker is that after I have busted out my $500, when I
return and put some cash in, I'll win big for about 1-2 days, and then
I'll have just 1 night where I'll continually be drawn out, have K's
cracked by A's. Sure, that's the nature of gambling, but it's just that I
don't get the feeling of that sort of thing happening in B&M rooms.

Let's be serious here, this may be the "I lose a lot online" whine, but if
you think that poker companies don't rig flops and deals in online games
to some extent, you're naive, a couple of reasons:

1. Ease of cheating - It's online, we never see the engine used we could
be cheated, we wouldn't know it.

2. Division of the Masses - The winner's won't complain. They're the
better players, they're around and they make tons of money. They're the
beneficiaries. Sure, they'll get cracked once in awhile with by the
"fish" who's got the "keep him around because he throws away money" flag
turned to "true" on the poker program... But since the fishes will stick
around, the winner's will make more money. So, you always have a group
defending the companies.

3. Liability..? - No one can ever find out, they'll continue getting away
with it.

4. MONEY - More river and turn catches for bad players = more fish. More
fish = more sharks. That means more rake, bottom line.

I'm just making arguments as to why the games could be rigged more easily
than people think. I obviously have no hard proof, but that just feeds
into my reason number 2 above. Just wanted to post my 2 cents, and like I
said, I'm obviously no authority, I'm a big bad 3/6 player, in an ocean of
100/200 players.

-Raaid


On Aug 26 2003 1:51PM, biggestfish wrote:

> I'm in MP with AdAh at the $100 NL tables. Raise $25 get two callers flop
> comes 10 5 2 two diamonds. I go all in for my remaining $50 to make it
> expensive for any 10 to catch his kicker. and both call one is holding 99
> the other A4 no flush draw. Now nobody in their right mind would call $25
> 99 or A4o when a tight player raises but that's another story. Well the
> turn brings the 9d and the river a 3 for his gut shot. How in the world
> would these 2 last more than one week without pulling a second mortgage?

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[biggestfish]

ok so I go on vacation and comeback to see empire offering a bonus since
I've been gone for awhile. Well I deposit the max and win $300 plus the
$50 bonus. Sweet. Then I withdraw my $600 to neteller to get those
neteller points for drawings. Well I put in another $100 couple nights
later because I'm bored. and proceed to loose to really oddball stuff. I
quit knowing something is fishy. Then get a $100 bonus offer that I see
2+2 forums. I play that make 700 + 100 bonus over the weekend. I proceed
to withdraw that to get more neteller points. Comeback since I'm bored
and really get some oddball beats. Yes I believe in the cashout blues and
usually leave my money in there but with college starting I've got to pay
the new higher california tuition, moved back to campus and getting a new
car. All these expenses put a little more pressure on me while playing so
that may have something to it. I do believe some day someone will blow the
cover on one of the major sites. This isnt' whine as I've made thousands
from all the major sites and some not so major ones (the only exception UB
lost $300 and never returned as it was too slow and not enough fish).
Looks like I'm going to have to play the B+M until party undoes the voodoo
on my account. :)
On Aug 26 2003 8:56PM, Raaid Ahmad wrote:

> I am relatively new to poker and by no means can I claim to know about all
> the swings that occur from day to day or even from hour to hour. I could
> be one of those fish, who knows.
>
> It could be a subconscious change in the way I play, but the trend I have
> noticed on partypoker is that after I have busted out my $500, when I
> return and put some cash in, I'll win big for about 1-2 days, and then
> I'll have just 1 night where I'll continually be drawn out, have K's
> cracked by A's. Sure, that's the nature of gambling, but it's just that I
> don't get the feeling of that sort of thing happening in B&M rooms.
>
> Let's be serious here, this may be the "I lose a lot online" whine, but if
> you think that poker companies don't rig flops and deals in online games
> to some extent, you're naive, a couple of reasons:
>
> 1. Ease of cheating - It's online, we never see the engine used we could
> be cheated, we wouldn't know it.
>
> 2. Division of the Masses - The winner's won't complain. They're the
> better players, they're around and they make tons of money. They're the
> beneficiaries. Sure, they'll get cracked once in awhile with by the
> "fish" who's got the "keep him around because he throws away money" flag
> turned to "true" on the poker program... But since the fishes will stick
> around, the winner's will make more money. So, you always have a group
> defending the companies.
>
> 3. Liability..? - No one can ever find out, they'll continue getting away
> with it.
>
> 4. MONEY - More river and turn catches for bad players = more fish. More
> fish = more sharks. That means more rake, bottom line.
>
> I'm just making arguments as to why the games could be rigged more easily
> than people think. I obviously have no hard proof, but that just feeds
> into my reason number 2 above. Just wanted to post my 2 cents, and like I
> said, I'm obviously no authority, I'm a big bad 3/6 player, in an ocean of
> 100/200 players.
>
> -Raaid
>
>
> On Aug 26 2003 1:51PM, biggestfish wrote:
>
> > I'm in MP with AdAh at the $100 NL tables. Raise $25 get two callers flop
> > comes 10 5 2 two diamonds. I go all in for my remaining $50 to make it
> > expensive for any 10 to catch his kicker. and both call one is holding 99
> > the other A4 no flush draw. Now nobody in their right mind would call $25
> > 99 or A4o when a tight player raises but that's another story. Well the
> > turn brings the 9d and the river a 3 for his gut shot. How in the world
> > would these 2 last more than one week without pulling a second mortgage?

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[Ken H]

Aren't your stats for partypoker missing something? Is the 28.40
supposed to be 32.40??? I seemed to notice a lot of 3-of-a kind flops
on partypoker, but then when I looked at how many hands I had played
since I started playing there, the frequency seemed about right.

Ken







"nutspp" <nutspp@ntdigitales.com> wrote in message news:<bih3a5$c7d$1@news.ya.com>...
> Well, I been playing on partypoker about 4 month and been wining about 3000
> to 6000$ a month. I do not have any poker table to play live so I have to
> play online or not play at all.
>
> Some times I had a banch of stupid calls that beat me with a magic hand on
> the river so I migrate my hand history of poker traker to an excell sheet.
> Although not all the flops are complete because much of my hands do not get
> to the river, the results are quite normal. And shows that the game is quite
> fair.
>
> 10.000 hands
>
> theory
> 62.89% 2 cards suited on tabl
> 32.62% 3 cards suited on tabl
> 4.29% 4 cards suited on tabl
> 0.20% 5 cards suited on tabl
>
>
> tables on partypoker
> 63.28% 2 cards suited on tabl
> 28.40% 3 cards suited on tabl
> 4.12% 4 cards suited on tabl
> 0.19% 5 cards suited on tabl
>
>
>
>
> I did it also with pairs, 3 of a kind and 4 of a kind on flop with similar
> results.
>
> This is really easy to do and all of the people that think party is fixed
> can do it. If somebody wants to see all the hands I can send them by email
>
>
> sorry for my english
>
> Alvaro
>
>
> "biggestfish" <anonymous@hotmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:3f4b9e0d$0$23182$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...
> > I'm in MP with AdAh at the $100 NL tables. Raise $25 get two callers flop
> > comes 10 5 2 two diamonds. I go all in for my remaining $50 to make it
> > expensive for any 10 to catch his kicker. and both call one is holding 99
> > the other A4 no flush draw. Now nobody in their right mind would call $25
> > 99 or A4o when a tight player raises but that's another story. Well the
> > turn brings the 9d and the river a 3 for his gut shot. How in the world
> > would these 2 last more than one week without pulling a second mortgage?
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Posted using RecPoker.com - http://www.recpoker.com
> >
> >

[Andrus]

Well, Well, Well...

Coincidently... I had the exact same problem at Party Poker. i don't
see it as a conspiracy theory either.

Would win for a day or two after buy in, and then just get beat on like
no tomorrow. The last day I played, I lost 7 straight hands... nothing
unusual about that, Right? Well, we were short handed (4), and in all
7 hands I caught two pair or better, and two of them were boats beaten
by four of a kind... The kicker was that I lost all 7 hands to the same
player. Never saw anything like it, but had a similar experience there
the week prior. Left their in the red. Play there at your own risk..
plenty of fish, but much more fishy, than fish.

Never went back. Some Asians keep calling from there trying to get me
to go back, and each time I tell them that I can't beat their house
players, or bots, much less understand their broken English.


--
Andrus
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[O-PGManager]

What happens when 6 people sit down at a table who recently cashed out?
Does the algorithm recognize this and become fair?

People cash out for 2 reasons:

1) They are up, they want to take the money.

These are winning players, they've had a good experience playing, they'll
be back and generating more rake. Why punish them when they put their
money BACK into the site?

2) They are down, they want to cut their losses.

These are losing players, if they come back, why would you put the hex on
them. If they lose again they are probably gone for good.

So the cashout curse makes little sense.

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On Aug 27 2003 1:00AM, biggestfish wrote:

> ok so I go on vacation and comeback to see empire offering a bonus since
> I've been gone for awhile. Well I deposit the max and win $300 plus the
> $50 bonus. Sweet. Then I withdraw my $600 to neteller to get those
> neteller points for drawings. Well I put in another $100 couple nights
> later because I'm bored. and proceed to loose to really oddball stuff. I
> quit knowing something is fishy. Then get a $100 bonus offer that I see
> 2+2 forums. I play that make 700 + 100 bonus over the weekend. I proceed
> to withdraw that to get more neteller points. Comeback since I'm bored
> and really get some oddball beats. Yes I believe in the cashout blues and
> usually leave my money in there but with college starting I've got to pay
> the new higher california tuition, moved back to campus and getting a new
> car. All these expenses put a little more pressure on me while playing so
> that may have something to it. I do believe some day someone will blow the
> cover on one of the major sites. This isnt' whine as I've made thousands
> from all the major sites and some not so major ones (the only exception UB
> lost $300 and never returned as it was too slow and not enough fish).
> Looks like I'm going to have to play the B+M until party undoes the voodoo
> on my account. :)
> On Aug 26 2003 8:56PM, Raaid Ahmad wrote:
>

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"O-PGManager" <anonymous@online-pokerguide.com> wrote in message news:<3f4cfc25$0$23276$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>...
> What happens when 6 people sit down at a table who recently cashed out?
> Does the algorithm recognize this and become fair?
>
> People cash out for 2 reasons:
>
> 1) They are up, they want to take the money.
>
> These are winning players, they've had a good experience playing, they'll
> be back and generating more rake. Why punish them when they put their
> money BACK into the site?
>
> 2) They are down, they want to cut their losses.
>
> These are losing players, if they come back, why would you put the hex on
> them. If they lose again they are probably gone for good.
>
> So the cashout curse makes little sense.
>
> O-PG
>
Analyze it and get back to us with the answers. We will be waiting.




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> On Aug 27 2003 1:00AM, biggestfish wrote:
>
> > ok so I go on vacation and comeback to see empire offering a bonus since
> > I've been gone for awhile. Well I deposit the max and win $300 plus the
> > $50 bonus. Sweet. Then I withdraw my $600 to neteller to get those
> > neteller points for drawings. Well I put in another $100 couple nights
> > later because I'm bored. and proceed to loose to really oddball stuff. I
> > quit knowing something is fishy. Then get a $100 bonus offer that I see
> > 2+2 forums. I play that make 700 + 100 bonus over the weekend. I proceed
> > to withdraw that to get more neteller points. Comeback since I'm bored
> > and really get some oddball beats. Yes I believe in the cashout blues and
> > usually leave my money in there but with college starting I've got to pay
> > the new higher california tuition, moved back to campus and getting a new
> > car. All these expenses put a little more pressure on me while playing so
> > that may have something to it. I do believe some day someone will blow the
> > cover on one of the major sites. This isnt' whine as I've made thousands
> > from all the major sites and some not so major ones (the only exception UB
> > lost $300 and never returned as it was too slow and not enough fish).
> > Looks like I'm going to have to play the B+M until party undoes the voodoo
> > on my account. :)
> > On Aug 26 2003 8:56PM, Raaid Ahmad wrote:
> >
>
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WHO ARE THESE LOSERS AND DO THEY REALLY BELIEVE IN THIS CRAP ENOUGH TO TRY
AND DEBATE OVER IT?


On Aug 27 2003 1:44PM, O-PGManager wrote:

> What happens when 6 people sit down at a table who recently cashed out?
> Does the algorithm recognize this and become fair?
>
> People cash out for 2 reasons:
>
> 1) They are up, they want to take the money.
>
> These are winning players, they've had a good experience playing, they'll
> be back and generating more rake. Why punish them when they put their
> money BACK into the site?
>
> 2) They are down, they want to cut their losses.
>
> These are losing players, if they come back, why would you put the hex on
> them. If they lose again they are probably gone for good.
>
> So the cashout curse makes little sense.
>
> O-PG
>
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> Start winning hundreds at Texas Holdem with Power Holdem+
> http://www.online-pokerguide.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 27 2003 1:00AM, biggestfish wrote:
>
> > ok so I go on vacation and comeback to see empire offering a bonus since
> > I've been gone for awhile. Well I deposit the max and win $300 plus the
> > $50 bonus. Sweet. Then I withdraw my $600 to neteller to get those
> > neteller points for drawings. Well I put in another $100 couple nights
> > later because I'm bored. and proceed to loose to really oddball stuff. I
> > quit knowing something is fishy. Then get a $100 bonus offer that I see
> > 2+2 forums. I play that make 700 + 100 bonus over the weekend. I proceed
> > to withdraw that to get more neteller points. Comeback since I'm bored
> > and really get some oddball beats. Yes I believe in the cashout blues and
> > usually leave my money in there but with college starting I've got to pay
> > the new higher california tuition, moved back to campus and getting a new
> > car. All these expenses put a little more pressure on me while playing so
> > that may have something to it. I do believe some day someone will blow the
> > cover on one of the major sites. This isnt' whine as I've made thousands
> > from all the major sites and some not so major ones (the only exception UB
> > lost $300 and never returned as it was too slow and not enough fish).
> > Looks like I'm going to have to play the B+M until party undoes the voodoo
> > on my account. :)
> > On Aug 26 2003 8:56PM, Raaid Ahmad wrote:
> >

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