how hard is poker?

[accountant]

It's hard for me to gauge now that I've been winning consistently for some
time now at low limit poker.

I've played some higher limit but not enough yet to know if I can beat it
consistently.

I'm currently attempting to get really good at no limit and pot limit.

Question: I have a college education and it wasn't unusual for me in
college to be the smartest or at least the best student in a class in
college. I was in advanced classses throuhout high school.

I definitely have a much higher than average intelligence. I'm just
wondering how hard it actually is for other individuals with above average
intelligence / and those with very high intelligence / and those with
average / below average intelligence to win at cards.

I'm really wanting to know becuase I'm making pretty good money online and
I was considering attempting to teach one or two persons how to play.
From what I've seen of these people in their poker play, they are really
terrible. They have really good jobs and are very bright, but they don't
understand how to play good poker.

For me it was a lot of hard work at first becuase I gell into a lot of the
pitfalls...Drinking when playing pretty much end of story, but also not
keeping documentation of hours / rates, tilting, playing beyond bankroll
requirements.

Not sure how hard is to beat poker consisently for the average person?

Any thoughts?

P.S. I didn't proofread this very busy.

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[Bill]

Concentrate on each hand and what your opponents do in certain situations.
Know when to make a move and know when to smooth call. Read books and
prepare yourself.

On Aug 27 2003 1:34AM, accountant wrote:

> It's hard for me to gauge now that I've been winning consistently for some
> time now at low limit poker.
>
> I've played some higher limit but not enough yet to know if I can beat it
> consistently.
>
> I'm currently attempting to get really good at no limit and pot limit.
>
> Question: I have a college education and it wasn't unusual for me in
> college to be the smartest or at least the best student in a class in
> college. I was in advanced classses throuhout high school.
>
> I definitely have a much higher than average intelligence. I'm just
> wondering how hard it actually is for other individuals with above average
> intelligence / and those with very high intelligence / and those with
> average / below average intelligence to win at cards.
>
> I'm really wanting to know becuase I'm making pretty good money online and
> I was considering attempting to teach one or two persons how to play.
> From what I've seen of these people in their poker play, they are really
> terrible. They have really good jobs and are very bright, but they don't
> understand how to play good poker.
>
> For me it was a lot of hard work at first becuase I gell into a lot of the
> pitfalls...Drinking when playing pretty much end of story, but also not
> keeping documentation of hours / rates, tilting, playing beyond bankroll
> requirements.
>
> Not sure how hard is to beat poker consisently for the average person?
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> P.S. I didn't proofread this very busy.

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[accountant]

> Concentrate on each hand and what your opponents do in certain situations.
> Know when to make a move and know when to smooth call. Read books and
> prepare yourself.


This seems to be some of the best poker advice I can recall reading.

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[Gary Carson]

On 27 Aug 2003 06:34:42 GMT, "accountant" <anonymous@yahoo.com> wrote:


>
>Not sure how hard is to beat poker consisently for the average
person?
>
>Any thoughts?
>

It depends on your math SAT score.

[arlo payne]

Well at least you have the ego part down pat :)

On Aug 26 2003 11:34PM, accountant wrote:

> It's hard for me to gauge now that I've been winning consistently for some
> time now at low limit poker.
>
> I've played some higher limit but not enough yet to know if I can beat it
> consistently.
>
> I'm currently attempting to get really good at no limit and pot limit.
>
> Question: I have a college education and it wasn't unusual for me in
> college to be the smartest or at least the best student in a class in
> college. I was in advanced classses throuhout high school.
>
> I definitely have a much higher than average intelligence. I'm just
> wondering how hard it actually is for other individuals with above average
> intelligence / and those with very high intelligence / and those with
> average / below average intelligence to win at cards.
>
> I'm really wanting to know becuase I'm making pretty good money online and
> I was considering attempting to teach one or two persons how to play.
> From what I've seen of these people in their poker play, they are really
> terrible. They have really good jobs and are very bright, but they don't
> understand how to play good poker.
>
> For me it was a lot of hard work at first becuase I gell into a lot of the
> pitfalls...Drinking when playing pretty much end of story, but also not
> keeping documentation of hours / rates, tilting, playing beyond bankroll
> requirements.
>
> Not sure how hard is to beat poker consisently for the average person?
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> P.S. I didn't proofread this very busy.

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[Tad Perry]

"Gary Carson" <garycarson@alumni.northwestern.edu> wrote in message
news:3f4c6888.112755916@news.east.earthlink.net...
> On 27 Aug 2003 06:34:42 GMT, "accountant" <anonymous@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Not sure how hard is to beat poker consisently for the average
> person?
> >
> >Any thoughts?
> >
>
> It depends on your math SAT score.

You mean, like, if you scored one point higher than David Sklansky, you can
probably beat the game, but if you scored anything less, the answer is
indeterminate?

tvp

[AcesLow]

"accountant" <anonymous@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3f4c5102$0$23230$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>...
> It's hard for me to gauge now that I've been winning consistently for some
> time now at low limit poker.
>
> I've played some higher limit but not enough yet to know if I can beat it
> consistently.
>
> I'm currently attempting to get really good at no limit and pot limit.
>
> Question: I have a college education and it wasn't unusual for me in
> college to be the smartest or at least the best student in a class in
> college.

Was this clown college?

>I was in advanced classses throuhout high school.

"Special" and "Advanced" are 2 different things.



> I definitely have a much higher than average intelligence.

We can tell. Your intellect is astounding


I'm just
> wondering how hard it actually is for other individuals with above average
> intelligence / and those with very high intelligence / and those with
> average / below average intelligence to win at cards.

People are wired in different ways. Some are geniuses at mathematics,
but can't smell a bluff. Others are great at analyzing situations,
but cant calculate odds. Some people are geniuses in the kitchen,
others can't boil water. If you are really winning, then it is
obvious for those with below-average intellect to win.

>
> I'm really wanting to know becuase I'm making pretty good money online and
> I was considering attempting to teach one or two persons how to play.

Based on your posts and play, you should not be teaching anyone
anything, except, maybe, for those people you really dislike in life.

> From what I've seen of these people in their poker play, they are really
> terrible.

Worse than you?

They have really good jobs and are very bright, but they don't
> understand how to play good poker.

Nor do you.

>
> For me it was a lot of hard work at first becuase I gell into a lot of the
> pitfalls...Drinking when playing pretty much end of story, but also not
> keeping documentation of hours / rates, tilting, playing beyond bankroll
> requirements.

Go back to drinking. You may play better.

>
> Not sure how hard is to beat poker consisently for the average person?

Not hard. Beating you is easy, tho.

>
> Any thoughts?

Several. Do you have any?

>
> P.S. I didn't proofread this very busy.

Got the new playboy, did ya?


>
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[countlesshands]

Another wrongheaded statement. It is the verbal SAT score that is the
predictive indicator.

garycarson@alumni.northwestern.edu (Gary Carson) wrote in message news:<3f4c6888.112755916@news.east.earthlink.net>...
> On 27 Aug 2003 06:34:42 GMT, "accountant" <anonymous@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Not sure how hard is to beat poker consisently for the average
> person?
> >
> >Any thoughts?
> >
>
> It depends on your math SAT score.

[accountant]

> > Any thoughts?
>
> Several. Do you have any?
>
> >


It appears that I've developed an accountant fan base. I see that I have
several worshipers that attempt to answer some of the challenging thoughts
and brilliant ideas of a genius.

You're sarcastic anti-post is a classic case of RGP post consumption,
meaning you are consumed with the idea that you have to go out and make
others look less intelligent than you so you can go to sleep at night
without understanding what a pathetic loser you are.

It also appears you make an attempt at humour to hide your hatred for the
success of my methods and my following on RGP.

p.s. i don't proofread these

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[JTAutry]

"accountant" <anonymous@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > It depends on your math SAT score.
>
>
> I know that's not true (as this is false statement intentionally).
>


Don't take it personally, its a Sklanksy joke.

JT

[AcesLow]

"accountant" <anonymous@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3f4ccb18$0$23186$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>...
> > > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Several. Do you have any?
> >
> > >
>
>
> It appears that I've developed an accountant fan base. I see that I have
> several worshipers that attempt to answer some of the challenging thoughts
> and brilliant ideas of a genius.

You really are delusional, aren't you?


>
> You're sarcastic anti-post is a classic case of RGP post consumption,
> meaning you are consumed with the idea that you have to go out and make
> others look less intelligent than you so you can go to sleep at night
> without understanding what a pathetic loser you are.

I make these posts during the day. And you ended a sentence with a
preposition.

>
> It also appears you make an attempt at humour to hide your hatred for the
> success of my methods and my following on RGP.

You have a "following" on RGP? Where is that? Will these followers
please step forward? Seems to me like most people here find you to be
a moronic imbecile. You've been playing poker how long? 2 months?
3? Based on your posts I sure as hell hope not any longer. You
"wisdom" wreaks of someone who has been playing a VERY short time, and
thinks they have it all figured out from reading a few books and
seeing a few hands. It's obvious in what you post, the contradictions
you make, and the overall stupidity of your advice (when your advice
does not fall under he category of "well, duh").

You are not qualified to teach the game, as you are still learning it
yourself. Deluding people (including yourself) into believing you know
more than you do will hurt them in the long term (and short-term,
too). You should be ASKING OTHERS for lessons, not offering them
yourself.

As I said before. Good luck with life. Hopefully, you'll find one
soon.

>
> p.s. i don't proofread these
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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[AcesLow]

"accountant" <anonymous@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3f4ccb18$0$23186$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>...
> > > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Several. Do you have any?
> >
> > >
>
>
> It appears that I've developed an accountant fan base. I see that I have
> several worshipers that attempt to answer some of the challenging thoughts
> and brilliant ideas of a genius.

You really are delusional, aren't you?


>
> You're sarcastic anti-post is a classic case of RGP post consumption,
> meaning you are consumed with the idea that you have to go out and make
> others look less intelligent than you so you can go to sleep at night
> without understanding what a pathetic loser you are.

I make these posts during the day. And you ended a sentence with a
preposition.

>
> It also appears you make an attempt at humour to hide your hatred for the
> success of my methods and my following on RGP.

You have a "following" on RGP? Where is that? Will these followers
please step forward? Seems to me like most people here find you to be
a moronic imbecile. You've been playing poker how long? 2 months?
3? Based on your posts I sure as hell hope not any longer. You
"wisdom" wreaks of someone who has been playing a VERY short time, and
thinks they have it all figured out from reading a few books and
seeing a few hands. It's obvious in what you post, the contradictions
you make, and the overall stupidity of your advice (when your advice
does not fall under he category of "well, duh").

You are not qualified to teach the game, as you are still learning it
yourself. Deluding people (including yourself) into believing you know
more than you do will hurt them in the long term (and short-term,
too). You should be ASKING OTHERS for lessons, not offering them
yourself.

As I said before. Good luck with life. Hopefully, you'll find one
soon.

>
> p.s. i don't proofread these
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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[JohnnyD]

Poker is hard..........let's go shopping.

--
JohnnyD

[J12325]

>It's hard for me to gauge now that I've been winning consistently for some
>time now at low limit poker.

All can do is relate what happened last week at the Stardust;

New player joins the table, probably a lawyer, dressed in a jacket and tie. His
wife is with him and is listening intently while he buys in for $40 and
explains the game to her. My guess was that was all he figured he would need to
clean us all out in 3-6 game.

The deal and I fold and so does most of the table. I don't remember the flop
but the lawyer bets and a little Hispanic guy calls the rest all fold. The
Hispanic looks like he just finished work, got his best T-shirt on and the best
pair of blue jeans he had without to many worn thru holes in them to look his
best at the table. The Turn and the lawyer bets again, but the rest of us see a
straight coming. The Hispanic calls. The River, the lawyer bets and the
Hispanic raises. The Lawyer, thinks about reraising but calls. The lawyer has
pocket A's with an A on the board for a set. The Hispanic had the straight we
all saw coming.

The lawyer lasted another $80 and about 30 minutes more before he realized he
was over matched. The Hispanic was up $200 by the end of the night as he is a
lot of nights. Do you think he ever took a SAT test let alone get past the 3rd
grade before he had to start earning money to help his family? He does have a
very good Poker education and knows what a winning hand looks like before and
after he makes it and plays it accordingly. Text book play... without ever
reading a text book... Good players develop over time if they have a passion
for the game.

Joe M

[Gary Carson]

On 29 Aug 2003 03:44:19 GMT, j12325@aol.com (J12325) wrote:

lawyer has
>pocket A's with an A on the board for a set. The Hispanic had the
straight we
>all saw coming.
>


>after he makes it and plays it accordingly. Text book play... without
ever
>reading a text book... Good players develop over time if they have a
passion
>for the game.
>

What textbook do y'all recommend to learn to see it coming? I've
tried the visualization techniques that makes it come by visualizing
it, but it only seems to work some of the time.

[jarrett40]

"accountant" <anonymous@yahoo.com> wrote >
I definitely have a much higher than average intelligence. I'm just
> wondering how hard it actually is for other individuals with above average
> intelligence / and those with very high intelligence / and those with
> average / below average intelligence to win at cards.

None of this means shit.I played against a drunken house painter
several years ago that was a hell of a player.
Most of the players with very high intelligence I've played against
had some quirk that eventually did them in.

jarrett40