All in bet with str8 on board

[NoOne]

Hypothetical question.....

Say you are in a tourney down to last two for the ULTIMATE PRIZE

Board is a middle str8 with no flush possible....say 6d 7h 8h 9c 10d


You can't beat the board and your opponent goes all-in. Without considering
how the cards came and the betting preflop, on the flop, and on the turn. in
which situations would you call based on stack sizes, assuming you had a
decent previous investment in the hand?

Do you call no matter what? What if you are 10:1, 5:1, 2:1 advantage? What
about on the flipside....if you are at a disadvantage..again 1:10, 1:5,
1:2???

Curious to see what some thoughts are.

[Krugar]

On Sep 27 2003 9:31PM, NoOne wrote:

> Hypothetical question.....
>
> Say you are in a tourney down to last two for the ULTIMATE PRIZE
>
> Board is a middle str8 with no flush possible....say 6d 7h 8h 9c 10d
>
>
> You can't beat the board and your opponent goes all-in. Without considering
> how the cards came and the betting preflop, on the flop, and on the turn. in
> which situations would you call based on stack sizes, assuming you had a
> decent previous investment in the hand?
>
> Do you call no matter what? What if you are 10:1, 5:1, 2:1 advantage? What
> about on the flipside....if you are at a disadvantage..again 1:10, 1:5,
> 1:2???
>
> Curious to see what some thoughts are.


What you have to realise forst of all is that the amount of chips you
currently have invested in the pot is irrelevant. The call purely comes
down to your chances of winning the pot or possibly if you are very short
stacked and left at a huge disadvantage without a call. Also you have to
remember that you cannot win this pt outright the best you can hope to do
is split, therefor you have to think about how much you are prepared to
risk to do this. Again I believe this comes down to how many chips you
have, The greater your advantage I believe the bigger a mistake a call
would be. Suppose you call and your opponent takes the lot even if you
were a long way in front you have just given him a big leg-up to perhaps
catch-up. As I eluded to earlier I think the only option here is to fold
unless you are a long way behind on chips and need half the pot to keep
you in with a realistic chance of winning the tourney.

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[Joeker]

I'll tell you this, whenever something like this happens and I am
condifent it is a tie, I will always bet large or go all-in. I can often
scare them into thinking I have the Jack, even though all I have is the
str8 on the board.


On Sep 27 2003 6:31AM, NoOne wrote:

> Hypothetical question.....
>
> Say you are in a tourney down to last two for the ULTIMATE PRIZE
>
> Board is a middle str8 with no flush possible....say 6d 7h 8h 9c 10d
>
>
> You can't beat the board and your opponent goes all-in. Without considering
> how the cards came and the betting preflop, on the flop, and on the turn. in
> which situations would you call based on stack sizes, assuming you had a
> decent previous investment in the hand?
>
> Do you call no matter what? What if you are 10:1, 5:1, 2:1 advantage? What
> about on the flipside....if you are at a disadvantage..again 1:10, 1:5,
> 1:2???
>
> Curious to see what some thoughts are.

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[John Fernandez]

>I'll tell you this, whenever something like this happens and I am
>condifent it is a tie, I will always bet large or go all-in. I can often
>scare them into thinking I have the Jack, even though all I have is the
>str8 on the board.

Of course, I believe in this play, except for the times where my opponent calls
me and says "oh, you have the Jack too?"

John Fernandez