noiseboy
04-04-2005, 12:43 AM
It doesn't really have to be a good cause for someone who dies to be
considered a martyr. It only has to be a good cause in the eyes of those
who support that cause, so that they rally behind the ideas that person
represented. For instance, if I were a neo-Nazi, I might think that
Hitler was a martyr and a rallying point for white supremacy. To anyone
who is not a Nazi, Hitler would be the antithesis of a martyr. There are
a lot of wacky people who consider David Koresh or Timothy McVeigh to be
martyrs. If OBL was killed, you'd better believe a lot of people will
view him as a martyr. From my point of view, I consider people like MLK
to qualify as a martyr. Anyway, I think that the main thing is that you
have to be killed to be one.
On Jul 23 2003 7:01AM, Bad Bob wrote:
> On 23 Jul 2003 18:26:45 GMT, "noiseboy" <anonymous@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Huh???? A martyr is defined as someone who dies for a cause and then often
> >becomes more powerful after death as a rallying symbol of the cause they
> >represented. For instance, if Jesus had not been crucified and killed, it
> >would make no sense to call him a martyr. Anyway, you can only make
> >someone a martyr by killing them, in this case I think live is better
> >because you can make them stand trial for their crimes and then be
> >punished. This would bring publicity for all of their atrocities and
> >brutality, and it would give a sense of legitimacy in world opinion to the
> >invasion, which I think is badly needed.
> >
>
> My 2 cents:
>
> I always thought a martyr had to be a martyr to some cause or religion
> or to service of someone.
>
> Other than themselves who would the Bobbsy twins of Baghdad be
> martyred to, for or by?
>
> These clowns will go the way of Idi Amin in a couple of weeks.
>
> (Don't some dumb ass ask me who Idi Amin was now, or I'll spit in yer
> eye.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Bad Bob the Albino
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considered a martyr. It only has to be a good cause in the eyes of those
who support that cause, so that they rally behind the ideas that person
represented. For instance, if I were a neo-Nazi, I might think that
Hitler was a martyr and a rallying point for white supremacy. To anyone
who is not a Nazi, Hitler would be the antithesis of a martyr. There are
a lot of wacky people who consider David Koresh or Timothy McVeigh to be
martyrs. If OBL was killed, you'd better believe a lot of people will
view him as a martyr. From my point of view, I consider people like MLK
to qualify as a martyr. Anyway, I think that the main thing is that you
have to be killed to be one.
On Jul 23 2003 7:01AM, Bad Bob wrote:
> On 23 Jul 2003 18:26:45 GMT, "noiseboy" <anonymous@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Huh???? A martyr is defined as someone who dies for a cause and then often
> >becomes more powerful after death as a rallying symbol of the cause they
> >represented. For instance, if Jesus had not been crucified and killed, it
> >would make no sense to call him a martyr. Anyway, you can only make
> >someone a martyr by killing them, in this case I think live is better
> >because you can make them stand trial for their crimes and then be
> >punished. This would bring publicity for all of their atrocities and
> >brutality, and it would give a sense of legitimacy in world opinion to the
> >invasion, which I think is badly needed.
> >
>
> My 2 cents:
>
> I always thought a martyr had to be a martyr to some cause or religion
> or to service of someone.
>
> Other than themselves who would the Bobbsy twins of Baghdad be
> martyred to, for or by?
>
> These clowns will go the way of Idi Amin in a couple of weeks.
>
> (Don't some dumb ass ask me who Idi Amin was now, or I'll spit in yer
> eye.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Bad Bob the Albino
> email: badbob@blueflintcat.us
> WWW.BLUEFLINTCAT.US/RGPFAQ/
> Home of: "FAQ (rec.gambling.poker)for New Poker Players"
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