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pokerallstar999

07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

I hear Stu Ungar was really great at poker. I was hoping someone
could tell me about his playing style. I mean, I've heard he had am
amazing talent for reading peole, and also that he was very agressive
but can anyone tell me anything more specific about how he played?
Like, how does his agression differ from the kind Doyle Brunson
advocated in SuperSystem, what are some typical plays he'd make, is he
analagous to any player nowadays?

Thanks,
danny

Mike

07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

On Oct 17 2003 3:37PM, pokerallstar999 wrote:

> I hear Stu Ungar was really great at poker. I was hoping someone
> could tell me about his playing style. I mean, I've heard he had am
> amazing talent for reading peole, and also that he was very agressive
> but can anyone tell me anything more specific about how he played?
> Like, how does his agression differ from the kind Doyle Brunson
> advocated in SuperSystem, what are some typical plays he'd make, is he
> analagous to any player nowadays?

I've heard Stuey would stare at a person for hours, trying to get tells
from them. If this is true, then his "talent" is no greater than what
would be expected of him.

Regards,
Mike

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Al Mirpuri

07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

"Mike" <joecombi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3f907388$0$150$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>...
> On Oct 17 2003 3:37PM, pokerallstar999 wrote:
>
> > I hear Stu Ungar was really great at poker. I was hoping someone
> > could tell me about his playing style. I mean, I've heard he had am
> > amazing talent for reading peole, and also that he was very agressive
> > but can anyone tell me anything more specific about how he played?
> > Like, how does his agression differ from the kind Doyle Brunson
> > advocated in SuperSystem, what are some typical plays he'd make, is he
> > analagous to any player nowadays?
>
> I've heard Stuey would stare at a person for hours, trying to get tells
> from them. If this is true, then his "talent" is no greater than what
> would be expected of him.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>

If you go to:

http://www.philhellmuth.com/hotw.html?hotw=02-10.html

you will read a brilliant tale about Stuey's genius.
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dunno

07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

In article <4782f09c.0310171137.58757ec7@posting.google.com>,
chessplayerashman@hotmail.com (pokerallstar999) wrote:

> I hear Stu Ungar was really great at poker. I was hoping someone
> could tell me about his playing style. I mean, I've heard he had am
> amazing talent for reading peole, and also that he was very agressive
> but can anyone tell me anything more specific about how he played?
> Like, how does his agression differ from the kind Doyle Brunson
> advocated in SuperSystem, what are some typical plays he'd make, is he
> analagous to any player nowadays?
>
> Thanks,
> danny

Stu Unger was the greatest Gin Rummy player that ever lived
Stu Unger will never be equaled as a Gin Rummy player
Stu Unger was the greatest No-Limit Tourney Hold-em player ever
Stu Unger was the greatest heads up No-Limit player ever
Playing Hold-em with Stu Unger was like playing hold-em with your cards
turned over
Stu Unger could memorize each card in a five deck shoe, and read them
back
Stu Unger was a father who loved his daughter as much as any father can
Stu Unger was a giant of a card player, nobody has even come close.
Stu Unger was able to wither his opponents into jelly with his
aggressive play.

And now the bad part......
Stu Unger was a compulsive gambler, who was also a severe drug addict
for over 15 years. It ruined him. Near the end of his life he entered
the World Series one last time.......he won it of course, but really,
who cares if he won or not......I think most people just wished he would
come clean, and enjoy his life............he didn't.

It's a damm shame.

Bud

07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

On 17 Oct 2003 12:37:39 -0700, chessplayerashman@hotmail.com
(pokerallstar999) wrote:

>I hear Stu Ungar was really great at poker. I was hoping someone
>could tell me about his playing style. I mean, I've heard he had am
>amazing talent for reading peole, and also that he was very agressive
>but can anyone tell me anything more specific about how he played?
>Like, how does his agression differ from the kind Doyle Brunson
>advocated in SuperSystem, what are some typical plays he'd make, is he
>analagous to any player nowadays?

He was super aggressive. He had no patience. He was always on
full-borrow. He was broke most of the time.

Daniel

07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

al-mirpuri@talk21.com (Al Mirpuri) wrote in message news:<2835108e.0310171942.40a2220a@posting.google.com>...
> "Mike" <joecombi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3f907388$0$150$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>...
> > On Oct 17 2003 3:37PM, pokerallstar999 wrote:
> >
> > > I hear Stu Ungar was really great at poker. I was hoping someone
> > > could tell me about his playing style. I mean, I've heard he had am
> > > amazing talent for reading peole, and also that he was very agressive
> > > but can anyone tell me anything more specific about how he played?
> > > Like, how does his agression differ from the kind Doyle Brunson
> > > advocated in SuperSystem, what are some typical plays he'd make, is he
> > > analagous to any player nowadays?
> >
> > I've heard Stuey would stare at a person for hours, trying to get tells
> > from them. If this is true, then his "talent" is no greater than what
> > would be expected of him.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mike
> >
>
> If you go to:
>
> http://www.philhellmuth.com/hotw.html?hotw=02-10.html
>
> you will read a brilliant tale about Stuey's genius.
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Posted using RecPoker.com - http://www.recpoker.com

Thats one sick call to make. And even more sick that it was in a real
NL cashgame. 32.000 $ call with ten high! Amazing.

Daniel

pokerallstar999

07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

I do appreciate all of your responses, but if you'll read my original
post again, you should see that you're not really answering my
question. I'm not asking about his life, and I know he plays
agressively. I want more specific information about how he plays
agresively...

RazzO

07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

dunno

07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

In article <4782f09c.0310181348.69184a55@posting.google.com>,
chessplayerashman@hotmail.com (pokerallstar999) wrote:

> I do appreciate all of your responses, but if you'll read my original
> post again, you should see that you're not really answering my
> question. I'm not asking about his life, and I know he plays
> agressively. I want more specific information about how he plays
> agresively...

OK, here is how he played.

First, he got dealt two cards. Two minutes later.......he was the
winner!!

Then he got dealt two more cards.......he won again.

Kidding.....

What Stu did was read you well enough to get a handle on what you had in
your hand.....when you read about his aggression, obviously that's all
got to do with how you move your stack.

Stu would peg your hand, and then, no matter what you had, he would put
you all in. All of a sudden even your set of 7's doesn't look so good,
considering he's been raising from the start.

Of course, even if he has nothing, you've got a decision to make.

Now, the thing of it all is, he starts this at the beginning, and he
never lets up......not for one hand, not even for one round of betting.

If Stu's in the hand, he's on you to get your chips all in. Imagine
this after about 8, 14, or even 20 hours.....hand, after hand, after
hand.

Oh.....and because you're all in hand after hand after hand.....one
mistake and you're out.

That's how Stu played. He knew your cards and pounded you for it. Stu
could read your cards as well in Hold'em as he could in Gin........and
Stu could read Gin cards like they were up in front of him.

If you want to know more, join the club. There's not much out there on
actual hands, anecdotes, etc.

That's why we're waiting for Nolan's book.

William McNeal

07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

Speaking of Stu Ungar, does anyone know if the pictures of him near the
end -- the ones with the collapsed nose -- are avalable anywhere on the
internet? I recall them from some magazine around 98 or 99, but can't find
it. I want to show them to a friend of mine...

Thanks,
Bill

"dunno" <duh@duh.net> wrote in message
news:duh-B40058.17445118102003@shawnews.gv.shawcable.net...
> In article <4782f09c.0310181348.69184a55@posting.google.com>,
> chessplayerashman@hotmail.com (pokerallstar999) wrote:
>
> > I do appreciate all of your responses, but if you'll read my original
> > post again, you should see that you're not really answering my
> > question. I'm not asking about his life, and I know he plays
> > agressively. I want more specific information about how he plays
> > agresively...
>
> OK, here is how he played.
>
> First, he got dealt two cards. Two minutes later.......he was the
> winner!!
>
> Then he got dealt two more cards.......he won again.
>
>
> Kidding.....
>
> What Stu did was read you well enough to get a handle on what you had in
> your hand.....when you read about his aggression, obviously that's all
> got to do with how you move your stack.
>
> Stu would peg your hand, and then, no matter what you had, he would put
> you all in. All of a sudden even your set of 7's doesn't look so good,
> considering he's been raising from the start.
>
> Of course, even if he has nothing, you've got a decision to make.
>
> Now, the thing of it all is, he starts this at the beginning, and he
> never lets up......not for one hand, not even for one round of betting.
>
> If Stu's in the hand, he's on you to get your chips all in. Imagine
> this after about 8, 14, or even 20 hours.....hand, after hand, after
> hand.
>
> Oh.....and because you're all in hand after hand after hand.....one
> mistake and you're out.
>
> That's how Stu played. He knew your cards and pounded you for it. Stu
> could read your cards as well in Hold'em as he could in Gin........and
> Stu could read Gin cards like they were up in front of him.
>
> If you want to know more, join the club. There's not much out there on
> actual hands, anecdotes, etc.
>
> That's why we're waiting for Nolan's book.

Hopfrog

07-18-2005, 03:06 PM

For you diehard Ungar fans. I was in Gamblers book store in vegas a couple
of weeks ago. In the backroom they got a lot of great vintage materials. I
noticed a really old edition of gambling times with a picture of Stu on
the front playing for his first wsop bracelet. If your local you might
want to check it out. Coverage of his first wsop win.

On Oct 19 2003 12:45AM, William McNeal wrote:

> Speaking of Stu Ungar, does anyone know if the pictures of him near the
> end -- the ones with the collapsed nose -- are avalable anywhere on the
> internet? I recall them from some magazine around 98 or 99, but can't find
> it. I want to show them to a friend of mine...
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>
> "dunno" <duh@duh.net> wrote in message
> news:duh-B40058.17445118102003@shawnews.gv.shawcable.net...
> > In article <4782f09c.0310181348.69184a55@posting.google.com>,
> > chessplayerashman@hotmail.com (pokerallstar999) wrote:
> >
> > > I do appreciate all of your responses, but if you'll read my original
> > > post again, you should see that you're not really answering my
> > > question. I'm not asking about his life, and I know he plays
> > > agressively. I want more specific information about how he plays
> > > agresively...
> >
> > OK, here is how he played.
> >
> > First, he got dealt two cards. Two minutes later.......he was the
> > winner!!
> >
> > Then he got dealt two more cards.......he won again.
> >
> >
> > Kidding.....
> >
> > What Stu did was read you well enough to get a handle on what you had in
> > your hand.....when you read about his aggression, obviously that's all
> > got to do with how you move your stack.
> >
> > Stu would peg your hand, and then, no matter what you had, he would put
> > you all in. All of a sudden even your set of 7's doesn't look so good,
> > considering he's been raising from the start.
> >
> > Of course, even if he has nothing, you've got a decision to make.
> >
> > Now, the thing of it all is, he starts this at the beginning, and he
> > never lets up......not for one hand, not even for one round of betting.
> >
> > If Stu's in the hand, he's on you to get your chips all in. Imagine
> > this after about 8, 14, or even 20 hours.....hand, after hand, after
> > hand.
> >
> > Oh.....and because you're all in hand after hand after hand.....one
> > mistake and you're out.
> >
> > That's how Stu played. He knew your cards and pounded you for it. Stu
> > could read your cards as well in Hold'em as he could in Gin........and
> > Stu could read Gin cards like they were up in front of him.
> >
> > If you want to know more, join the club. There's not much out there on
> > actual hands, anecdotes, etc.
> >
> > That's why we're waiting for Nolan's book.

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