2 simple questions

[JRF2k]

What are the max outs that a person could have in Holdem?

When I was playing a game the person beside me called, yet I had the
option to check. I was SB. Is this something special that the blinds get
to do?

Thanks for the answers.

JRF2k

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[Ken Lovering]

The best drawing hand you can have is to an open ended straight flush draw
with top pair....i.e,

you hold Ks,Qs and the flop is Js,Ts,Kh

3 outs to trip Kings
9 outs to a flush
6 outs to a straight (there are eight, but you have to subtract the two
spades you counted in your flush outs)
3 outs to a queen for two pair, however, that would give the guy with an ace
or nine the straight.

You would have had to of been in the big blind to have the option of
checking when all your opponent does is call your big blind.

Best regards,
Ken


"JRF2k" <anonymous@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> What are the max outs that a person could have in Holdem?
>
> When I was playing a game the person beside me called, yet I had the
> option to check. I was SB. Is this something special that the blinds get
> to do?
>
> Thanks for the answers.
>
> JRF2k
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
>

[AlwaysAware]

>From: "Ken Lovering"

>You would have had to of been in the big blind to have the option of
>checking when all your opponent does is call your big blind.
>
>Best regards,
>Ken

Not necessarily, if he were playing a tournament and it's the first round, its
possible the blinds were the same like 25/25.

The blind means that you were "forced" to bet and if no raises before it
returns to you,. you can "check" because you already have the neccesary funds
in the pot from being "forced" to bet.

Joan

[Ken Lovering]

Thanx Joan!
I was unaware that blind structure was used anywhere!

Best regards,
Ken
"AlwaysAware" <alwaysaware@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "Ken Lovering"
>
> >You would have had to of been in the big blind to have the option of
> >checking when all your opponent does is call your big blind.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Ken
>
> Not necessarily, if he were playing a tournament and it's the first round,
its
> possible the blinds were the same like 25/25.
>
> The blind means that you were "forced" to bet and if no raises before it
> returns to you,. you can "check" because you already have the neccesary
funds
> in the pot from being "forced" to bet.
>
> Joan
>
>

[JRF2k]

Thanks to you both!
JRF2k
On Oct 17 2003 6:01PM, AlwaysAware wrote:

> >From: "Ken Lovering"
>
> >You would have had to of been in the big blind to have the option of
> >checking when all your opponent does is call your big blind.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Ken
>
> Not necessarily, if he were playing a tournament and it's the first round,
its
> possible the blinds were the same like 25/25.
>
> The blind means that you were "forced" to bet and if no raises before it
> returns to you,. you can "check" because you already have the neccesary funds
> in the pot from being "forced" to bet.
>
> Joan

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[Bud]

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:14:56 -0000, "Ken Lovering"
<taintedrogue@adelphia.net> wrote:

>you hold Ks,Qs and the flop is Js,Ts,Kh
>
>3 outs to trip Kings
>9 outs to a flush
>6 outs to a straight (there are eight, but you have to subtract the two
>spades you counted in your flush outs)
>3 outs to a queen for two pair, however, that would give the guy with an ace
>or nine the straight.

Sorry, but two over cards with an open ended straight flush is better.

In your example above you only have two outs to trip kings, not three.

Nice try.

[Craig Franck]

<Bud> wrote

> "Ken Lovering" wrote:
>
> >you hold Ks,Qs and the flop is Js,Ts,Kh
> >
> >3 outs to trip Kings
> >9 outs to a flush
> >6 outs to a straight (there are eight, but you have to subtract the two
> >spades you counted in your flush outs)
> >3 outs to a queen for two pair, however, that would give the guy with an ace
> >or nine the straight.
>
> Sorry, but two over cards with an open ended straight flush is better.
>
> In your example above you only have two outs to trip kings, not three.

You are correct that that has the most outs, but I'd consider the
made hand with top pair a better situation to be in. You are slightly
less likely to get action in that you have a match to the top card on
the flop, but you can miss your draws and still have a good chance
of winning.

--
Craig Franck
craig.franck@verizon.net
Cortland, NY

[Bud]

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:59:47 GMT, "Craig Franck"
<craig.franck@verizon.net> wrote:

>You are correct that that has the most outs, but I'd consider the
>made hand with top pair a better situation to be in. You are slightly
>less likely to get action in that you have a match to the top card on
>the flop, but you can miss your draws and still have a good chance
>of winning.

Touche.