there doesn't seem to be the crazy 3 and 4 betting preflop and people actually
fold now when you bet out

"Kkiely" <kkiely@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> there doesn't seem to be the crazy 3 and 4 betting preflop and people
actually
> fold now when you bet out

tables at the lower limits are definitely tighter now. don't know if the
players have started to read a few books or just decided that they were sick
of losing money chasing gut shots. with that said, i played with a gem of a
player, watched him run 160 up to about 700 then leave 4 hours later with
50. guy played every hand.

"Kkiely" <kkiely@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> there doesn't seem to be the crazy 3 and 4 betting preflop and people
actually
> fold now when you bet out

I'm going to guess that the huge influx of new players from party's TV
commercials taught the lot of them a huge lesson quickly.

lots and lots of people reading this group, not to mention others, took
their money just like candy from a baby (as they say).

well, they lost. they lost big. in fact, I suspect that they got their asses
handed to them, and they learned: "oops! that's not the way it's done" and
quit it.

that's my guess anyway. ymmv.

tvp

kkiely@aol.comnojunk (Kkiely) wrote in message news:<20030805232907.20918.00000105@mb-m24.aol.com>...
> there doesn't seem to be the crazy 3 and 4 betting preflop and people actually
> fold now when you bet out

i noticed the same phenom. now we can switch from more passive to
actually stealing a few pots.

"Don't Crack" <onetimenospam@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<Xh%Xa.24309$gU6.3739291@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
> "Kkiely" <kkiely@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
> news:20030805232907.20918.00000105@mb-m24.aol.com...
> > there doesn't seem to be the crazy 3 and 4 betting preflop and people
> actually
> > fold now when you bet out
>
> tables at the lower limits are definitely tighter now. don't know if the
> players have started to read a few books or just decided that they were sick
> of losing money chasing gut shots. with that said, i played with a gem of a
> player, watched him run 160 up to about 700 then leave 4 hours later with
> 50. guy played every hand.

hey, i will get that money back!!!!!!!!!

Not sure it was just the TV ads and not sure many people are leaving. They had
almost 4200 real money players last night, with the other 3 at 1200, 1100, and
950. Amazing that Party could still be increasing their numbers daily after
crashing so much the past few days. By the looks of it, not many people going
broke yet.

It's all Pat OinkMalley's fault. He's been hyping the fact that the place
was a fish farm, and burned out the games.

"Matt" <kgarnett@email.com> wrote in message
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> kkiely@aol.comnojunk (Kkiely) wrote in message
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> > there doesn't seem to be the crazy 3 and 4 betting preflop and people
actually
> > fold now when you bet out
>
>
> Yeah, the NL tourneys are, for the most part, a lot tighter now, too.
> The change cost me some money, mainly because it took me too long to
> recognize the trend. I used to be able to finish in the top-3 by
> playing nothing but monsters, hardly working at all, just letting the
> fish kill one another and scooping mine in when I was securely on top.
> Now I find that the games have tightened up to a point where that
> strategy doesn't work. The games go deeper and you get yourself too
> short-stacked. You have to play more hands early to stick around late.
>
> It's more fun this way, but the money poured in a lot faster the old
> way.
>
> Matt